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ryanghall 07-23-2007 11:40 PM

($225) Fold QQ overpair in reraised pot?
 
Villain is kingsbay22. I have him at 29/9 7-9 handed after 117 hands that way. No other reads really.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 (t1530)
Hero (t1540)
MP2 (t2320)
MP3 (t1470)
CO (t1470)
Button (t1470)
SB (t1460)
BB (t725)
UTG (t1515)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t190</font>, MP2 calls t190, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: (t470) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t620</font>, Hero?

Little John 07-23-2007 11:49 PM

Re: ($225) Fold QQ overpair in reraised pot?
 
let me say this, i am assuming a bad player is just bad no matter what stakes they play. if i see a guy at 29/9 full table, unless i know otherwise, i gotta assume he is just bad. on ocassion a winning player can have these types of stats but not very often.

so once he reraises, there are about 1000 dead chips, you have 1000 behind. so you need to be good around 1/3 of the time.

against this type of opponent with all the possible draws i'm pretty sure you are good well over 1/3 of the time, so I call. in addition to the obvois draws, this guy could do this with AT or KT (if he is bad).

ryanghall 07-23-2007 11:51 PM

Re: ($225) Fold QQ overpair in reraised pot?
 
You think he's calling in a reraised pot w/ AT or KT? Seems to me like JJ is the only hand i'm ahead of and I don't think that'd min raise.

Little John 07-24-2007 12:05 AM

Re: ($225) Fold QQ overpair in reraised pot?
 
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You think he's calling in a reraised pot w/ AT or KT? Seems to me like JJ is the only hand i'm ahead of and I don't think that'd min raise.

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can you SS him? i have a hard time ever giving a bad player credit.

kyro 07-24-2007 12:25 AM

Re: ($225) Fold QQ overpair in reraised pot?
 
Even at 29/9 I'd have a hard time assigning a range of hands that he has that you beat with a repop to 190. I think I'm folding here.

Chipchucker5 07-24-2007 01:16 AM

Re: ($225) Fold QQ overpair in reraised pot?
 
I agree with John here...I'm 3-bet shoving.

suzzer99 07-24-2007 02:07 AM

Re: ($225) Fold QQ overpair in reraised pot?
 
Yeah you can't fold. And 29/9 isn't mindbogglingly bad. Just loose.

DDBeast 07-24-2007 02:59 AM

Re: ($225) Fold QQ overpair in reraised pot?
 
I think this is close but considering he's bad, but I think a call is order. He could have JJ, and I think 99 is a strong possibilty. However, he could be easeily playing a lot of sets this way. There's also plenty of draws out (you'd be surprised with what people call reraises with). I think you'll see KT/AT type hands enough to make calling good.

mildeng 07-24-2007 03:05 AM

Re: ($225) Fold QQ overpair in reraised pot?
 
that loose on a $225 table??

pineapple888 07-24-2007 03:05 AM

Re: ($225) Fold QQ overpair in reraised pot?
 
Hold on a sec, everyone, Villain flat-called an EP raise then an MP1 3-bet without set odds.

I muck this pretty fast. If he f'd with me, gg him.

Edit: if he's a huge idiot, maybe I call and play for showdown. But I don't think we can know that yet.

Edit 2: not so sure about the 3-bet preflop.


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