My river play still sucks
 

Despite having numerous holes in my game I've decided to take a stab at $1/$2 (anyone with any tips for the changes at this level please feel free to fire my way). Anyway, I'm still trying to work at my river play, so I wondered, is this a clear value bet on the river?

I have no reads on villain so assume he is a typical $1/$2 player... If it a bet & I am c/r'd here do I spew, call down & make a note, or fold?

Prima Poker skin
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
8 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 4 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.5SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.75BB, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6.75BB, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: 6.75BB

Re: My river play still sucks
 

IMO we can value bet here. He could hold some middle pair or a K with a lower kicker and feel like he should call it. Sure he could have hit the A and be trying to trap you for 2 but I don't think so. I think he would most likely have bet out if he hit an A.I think you are good here more than 55%. Bet the river.

Re: My river play still sucks
 

i think this is an easy bet. Judging by villians flop donk bet, he is more likely to have bet out his A hereI would think you are more likely up against a smaller pp than Ax.

If c/r you could fold but that is a major problem for my gameso easier said than done

Re: My river play still sucks
 

IF the game was a tight game, and everybody is playing smart, i check this river too and see KQ often. In a looser game, you need to bet the river. what happens then is the hard part. If he is a bluffer, he will like to bluff at this A, if he will only raise with big hands, or his showdown stats are good, you could consider bet/fold. Most river check raises at 1/2 mean business.

Isolating and unknown utg limper with KJo is ballsy. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Re: My river play still sucks
 

Bet/fold the river.

Re: My river play still sucks
 

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this is an easy bet

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Re: My river play still sucks
 

Bet-take pot river

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Re: My river play still sucks
 

I know we don't have one, but if we had a read on villain that he is aggressive, I'd wait to raise him on the turn. The only thing I'd worry about is KQ. A lot of players still open limp this from EP. I used to before recognizing it as a hand I don't want to play multiway.

If it was a very aggressive villain that was capable of folding to a raise, then I'd just call every street he bet, and then bet if he didn't. That way we get max value out of him.

Raise the turn, bet the river.

Re: My river play still sucks
 

Yeah turn raise + river bet is standard for me, especially since I seldom raise the flop with OC's.

Re: My river play still sucks
 

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Yeah turn raise + river bet is standard for me, especially since I seldom raise the flop with OC's.

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