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STOPRAKEGREED 11-27-2007 10:50 PM

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OP has played every limit from .01-.02 up to 100-200, mostly multi tabling 15-30 online and mostly 15-30 live

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no you don't.


There is no way someone whining and complaining about micro limit rake and who thinks .5/1 PLO is a mid stakes game has even sniffed a 15/30 or greater table.

Plus you started the thread I link below which no one with your "experience" would post.

Basic 5/10 NL Question


And I still think you're nutty.

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More childish name calling. I put the micro stakes example in because it was the most extreme. My experience at micro stakes comes only from playing their while setting up poker ace hud layouts. As for .50-1 plo, i'm happy to call it low limit. That's fine. But it is a limit where multitabling you can easily win or lose 500 in a day. Comparable to a 6-12 game limit holdem game in a casino. What stakes is 6-12--small or mid. It doesn't matter. The fact is that the amount of money that live ones have to lose is limited and the sites prefer that the live ones play in small games where the rake is enormous. Without that enormous rake some of the live ones would run it up occasionally and blow it in bigger games. But that rarely happens. You can call me names till your blue in the face. I COULDN'T CARE LESS. The fact is at least 80% fewer people make money online than was the case 3 years ago. THE RAKE KILLED ONLINE. It is basically a joke now.

STOPRAKEGREED 11-27-2007 10:55 PM

Re: Why online poker sucks.
 
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OP has played every limit from .01-.02 up to 100-200, mostly multi tabling 15-30 online and mostly 15-30 live

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no you don't.


There is no way someone whining and complaining about micro limit rake and who thinks .5/1 PLO is a mid stakes game has even sniffed a 15/30 or greater table.

Plus you started the thread I link below which no one with your "experience" would post.

Basic 5/10 NL Question


And I still think you're nutty.


Edit: I don't post or even visit this forum very often anymore but it's nice to see things haven't really changed. Bunch of veterans helping each other out as well as a bunch of sub 200 post crazies with wacked out conspiracy theories and looney ideas that will improve online poker (which is still thriving and profitable, btw).

gg Internet Gaming Forum. gg.

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So you value yourself based on the number of posts you have made here? lol. What a joke. This is not the only forum online you know. Online poker rooms make money. FEW PLAYERS DO. VERY FEW.

Wires 11-27-2007 10:56 PM

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About 4 years ago I could beat online poker, people learning hand rankings probably had more of an impact than the rake.

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Very true, ed. I started back in 2001 (maybe 02) with a PokerRoom account. Poker wasn't all over television yet and people had no clue about what constituted a good starting hand - players were splashing around with anything. I spent most of that time playing 5/10 and 10/20 LimitLHE and I don't think things were ever better.

I'm a much better player now than I was back then but I don't make as much. I'm getting all misty eyed just thinking about it.

The OP's assertion rake is killing the .01/.02 game is awesome though.

STOPRAKEGREED 11-27-2007 11:02 PM

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OF course people got better. Of course they read books and learned. But that doesn't explain why the games really suck bad. The amount of rake that any player pays online for an hour is considerably more than a casino. The live one has say $2000 to blow a month and maybe 20 hours to do it. Live he'll lose $350 in rake in 20 hours. Online, he'll lose more like half in rake if he plays two games at once. That is $650 less for the pro to make.

STOPRAKEGREED 11-27-2007 11:05 PM

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A point that I made originally that none of the name callers has picked up on is the point about having to cut a lot of checks. This is probably the biggest headache for the sites. UB sends checks from several different banks. Much easier to just keep the rake high.

edfurlong 11-27-2007 11:12 PM

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A point that I made originally that none of the name callers has picked up on is the point about having to cut a lot of checks. This is probably the biggest headache for the sites. UB sends checks from several different banks. Much easier to just keep the rake high.

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Awesome.

STOPRAKEGREED 11-27-2007 11:14 PM

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IT STILL SUCKS BECAUSE OF THE RAKE. BASTA!

DMoogle 11-27-2007 11:49 PM

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The primary reason games are "dead" (which I disagree with) is because online players are EXTRAORDINARILY better than they were a couple of years ago.

PoorLawyer 11-28-2007 12:10 AM

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yeah, i'll back it up. about 4 years ago almost all of the top san francisco pros were playing online. now about 80%, roughly 40 out of 50, have given it up. online is now just a bad joke unless you are one of the very best players.

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nice sample size.

Why are people even responding to this thread? Oh wait, I just did too. damn, foiled again.

augie_ 11-28-2007 12:56 AM

Re: Why online poker sucks.
 
op i was hoping you were gonna say "cuz people be checkraisin' me" or something


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