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thac 10-26-2007 07:12 AM

JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 
Villain is a TAG, not really creative. Other two callers are bad, and would stack off with any pair, not worried about them. I checked the turn because nothing I beat calls there, and is the river a b/f or c/f? Like, it seems really thin cause I have no idea what calls me that I beat but it feels weird to c/f.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $50.55
SB: $151.50
BB: $25.50
Hero (UTG): $225.55
MP: $128.50
CO: $103.50

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, 2 folds, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, MP calls $11, 2 folds

Turn: ($38) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($38) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $22</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $62</font>, Hero folds

Results: $82 Pot ($3 Rake)
MP mucked and WON $79 (+$42 NET)

Fonkey123 10-26-2007 07:42 AM

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 
This is ok. I might just c/f river though.

Sciolist 10-26-2007 08:14 AM

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 
Yeh, I think river check/fold is right. By your description it's unlikely he'll make a thin value bet with AT or something, and he'll fold those hands if you make a value bet.

Oh, and I prefer betting bigger on the flop in multiway pots to discourage one call leading to three calls.

PlzHelpMe 10-26-2007 08:20 AM

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 
c/f &gt; c/c &gt;b/f imo

JFsports 10-26-2007 08:24 AM

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 
I'd c/f, a "TAG, not really creative" is very unlikely to value bet worse on the river

bones 10-26-2007 08:45 AM

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 
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Villain is a TAG, not really creative. Other two callers are bad, and would stack off with any pair, not worried about them. I checked the turn because nothing I beat calls there, and is the river a b/f or c/f? Like, it seems really thin cause I have no idea what calls me that I beat but it feels weird to c/f.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $50.55
SB: $151.50
BB: $25.50
Hero (UTG): $225.55
MP: $128.50
CO: $103.50

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, 2 folds, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, MP calls $11, 2 folds

Turn: ($38) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($38) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $22</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $62</font>, Hero folds

Results: $82 Pot ($3 Rake)
MP mucked and WON $79 (+$42 NET)

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What is an uncreative tag flatting the flop with on that board with 2 left to act? T9, 89, 87?

Fonkey123 10-26-2007 09:02 AM

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Villain is a TAG, not really creative. Other two callers are bad, and would stack off with any pair, not worried about them. I checked the turn because nothing I beat calls there, and is the river a b/f or c/f? Like, it seems really thin cause I have no idea what calls me that I beat but it feels weird to c/f.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $50.55
SB: $151.50
BB: $25.50
Hero (UTG): $225.55
MP: $128.50
CO: $103.50

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, 2 folds, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, MP calls $11, 2 folds

Turn: ($38) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($38) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $22</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $62</font>, Hero folds

Results: $82 Pot ($3 Rake)
MP mucked and WON $79 (+$42 NET)

[/ QUOTE ]

What is an uncreative tag flatting the flop with on that board with 2 left to act? T9, 89, 87?

[/ QUOTE ]

J8.

C/c is horrid on this river.

Flyckten 10-26-2007 09:04 AM

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 
I would probally just C/F the river, since you're not going to call a raise. Just as PlzHelpMe, I like C/C better then B/F.

Suigin406 10-26-2007 09:08 AM

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 
c/c river is bad like it was said, uncreative tag, i just c/f

Unknown Soldier 10-26-2007 09:23 AM

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 
if he's bad there's still value, if not c/f


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