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CharlieDontSurf 11-16-2007 04:06 AM

Re: possible reason arod signed early?
 
first ive heard of it...but from nypost article

While Yankees officials went underground yesterday and Boras was silent outside of telling CNBC he is negotiating with the Yankees on Rodriguez's behalf after many believed Rodriguez went behind Boras' back, it's believed the best offer Rodriguez had before surfacing in Tampa Wednesday to meet with the Steinbrenner family was for eight years and $225 million. It wasn't known what team made that offer.

Kurn, son of Mogh 11-16-2007 08:19 AM

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Anyone else hear on sportscenter that ARod essentially fired Scott Boras and used Goldman Sachs to negotiate with the Yankees?

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Makes more sense than the original story that the Yankees told A-Rod they'd only talk to him if Boras wasn't involved, since that's in violation of the Basic Agreement.

pryor15 11-16-2007 10:27 AM

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first ive heard of it...but from nypost article

While Yankees officials went underground yesterday and Boras was silent outside of telling CNBC he is negotiating with the Yankees on Rodriguez's behalf after many believed Rodriguez went behind Boras' back, it's believed the best offer Rodriguez had before surfacing in Tampa Wednesday to meet with the Steinbrenner family was for eight years and $225 million. It wasn't known what team made that offer.

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if that's true, then Boras/ARod got the Yankees to overpay by 2 years and $50M. wow

SL__72 11-16-2007 01:06 PM

Re: possible reason arod signed early?
 
Did anyone read the Boras chat on BP a few months back?

Dids 11-16-2007 01:15 PM

Re: possible reason arod signed early?
 
Boras's chats are always interesting.

The guy is staggeringly good at what he does, and it's hilarious how the public perception of that throug the owners is "HE'S TOO GOOD IT'S NOT FAIR MAKE IT GO AWAY MOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM"

ArcticKnight 11-16-2007 01:43 PM

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He has been offered the longest contract in history and apparently a larger contract than the Yankees were offering before he opted out.

So what if Boras said the Yankees needed 350 million? If Boras said they needed to give him 1 billion dollars, would it matter? The Yankees said very clearly by opting out the Yankees would not negotiate with A-Rod. Period. Instead they gave him the largest contract ever, and one that will pay A-Rod until he is 42.

The spin doesn't matter. A-Rod "crawling back" to the Yankees doesn't matter. If the reports are true he's got a better deal by opting out than he would have by not opting out.

Edit: and lol, Boras is such a villain so that when A-Rod blows off Boras he looks like a good guy.

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I agree on all points except the "crawling back" part. Based on the exchanges back and forth, if there is any perception of crawling back it will be that the Yankees crawled back to A-rod. After all, it was the Yankees who gave A-Rod/Boras an ultimatum.

FWIW, I think having Boras out of the picture for these talks helped the Yankess save face, and it infers all would have been good from the beginning if not for Boras.

Anyway, latest news is that the Yankees are intersted in Lowell for 1st base (or they are just trying to make the Redsox pay bigger $$ for him..lol).

Jack of Arcades 11-16-2007 01:46 PM

Re: possible reason arod signed early?
 
No way, A-Rod will be seen as "humbled" and all that. People will think A-Rod "lost." I submit to you exhibit A, Gene Wojcieshowski

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If ever two people deserved very large servings of humility it is Rodriguez and agent Boras. They spectacularly underestimated the blowback caused by their latest series of business miscalculations. The bumbling has further damaged A-Rod's credibility and left welt marks on Boras' carefully crafted persona of invincibility.

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mosdef 11-16-2007 02:01 PM

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Boras got greedy, as usual, and it cost them in the end.

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What did it cost them?

ArcticKnight 11-16-2007 02:07 PM

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No way, A-Rod will be seen as "humbled" and all that. People will think A-Rod "lost." I submit to you exhibit A, Gene Wojcieshowski

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If ever two people deserved very large servings of humility it is Rodriguez and agent Boras. They spectacularly underestimated the blowback caused by their latest series of business miscalculations. The bumbling has further damaged A-Rod's credibility and left welt marks on Boras' carefully crafted persona of invincibility.

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Interesting, but I'm not sure if Wojcieshowski's take will be consistent with the general public opinion.

The Yankees lost the Texas $, they went back on their ultimatum, and they are giving him 27.5M per year plus incentives. Many people were saying that 10 years in the 25M to 30M range was what A-rod and Boras really wanted, so I am not seeing how A-Rod comes off bad on this. Also, Boras siad if the Yankees wanted A-Rod they could deal with him on the open market, which they did.

Thanks for the link.

SL__72 11-16-2007 02:08 PM

Re: possible reason arod signed early?
 
ARod didn't lose at all though.

The Yankees want ARod back obviously, but they said they wouldn't negotiate with him if he opted out. Saying he has to deduct the $21mil in Texas money from the new contract is their way of saving face. So basically they take the $300mil he wants, subtract $25 for the Texas money they lose and then give him the $25 back in incentives.


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