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kyleb 09-13-2007 08:43 PM

Supplement Review: Ergopharm 11-OXO
 
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11-OXO: Hormone Control Breakthrough From ERGOPHARM

ERGOPHARM proudly introduces 11-OXO, the first selective inhibitor of 11b-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type I reductase.

Finally, cortisol control that delivers on the promises.

ERGOPHARM has found the key to obtaining:

* decreased bodyfat (especially visceral adipose tissue)
* increased muscle density (hardness)
* enhanced insulin sensitivity and glycogen deposition
* increased strength
* improved cardiovascular health
* improved brain and CNS function

We started the prohormone era. Welcome to day one of the SCM era

11-OXO Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 3 Capsules
Servings Per Container: 20
Amount Per Serving
11-OXO (adrenosterone) 225mg
11-OXO Other Ingredients:
Gelatin, microcrystalline cellulose, modified cornstarch, magnesiom stearate, silica

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This supplement was recently mentioned by Will Carroll of Baseball Prospectus and in my last review of a supplement, Ergopharm's AMP. I took 3 caps of 11-OXO daily during baseball season, and I can definitely say this: In combination with a high-protein low-calorie diet and Ergopharm's AMP, I went from really soft to semi-soft with seriously defined arms extremely, extremely fast.

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I've since run out of it and planned to stop taking it (it's expensive), but I'm probably going to do another cycle in 2 weeks since I found some resellers that have it for much less than Ergopharm's official site.

I definitely think that AMP is the better product of the two, but after reading Will Carroll's blurb and then asking around, it seems like a lot of semi-pro and pro baseball players are on 11-OXO as a replacement for now-banned substances with results similar to mine.

(Obviously I am not a shill of Ergopharm; check out the Mind and Muscle forums for tons of great reviews of their products if you are interested.)

LocustHorde 09-13-2007 09:30 PM

Re: Supplement Review: Ergopharm 11-OXO
 
that's an interesting read, thanks for the review.. I've always been skeptical of the pro-hormones, but if I remember correctly in the early 2000 late 1990's, I had ok success with 1-AD, androstendiol (NOT androstene). FWIW, ErgoPharm is a pretty reliable company..

edfurlong 09-13-2007 11:24 PM

Re: Supplement Review: Ergopharm 11-OXO
 
I like your gladiator gear.

Thremp 09-14-2007 03:10 AM

Re: Supplement Review: Ergopharm 11-OXO
 
Stats for how long you were "on" and weight etc etc

kyleb 09-15-2007 12:04 AM

Re: Supplement Review: Ergopharm 11-OXO
 
I'm going to do another cycle soon; I'll post a log for the winter shortly after I receive the goods in the mail.

BTW, Ergopharm's lead tech (Patrick Arnold) served 3 months in jail for being involved with BALCO and andro. You know his ish is good!

MyTurn2Raise 09-17-2007 05:00 AM

Re: Supplement Review: Ergopharm 11-OXO
 
some dude that hangs at one of the downtown bars here in Champaign, IL served time related to all that stuff

knew alot about balco


don't know really where to go from there
just an interesting thing that you reminded me of


guy was interviewed a few times when Bonds was breaking the record


Holy [censored]>.....just googled the name before posting
that is definitely the guy that has been hanging around town

I haven't talked to him personally, but it seems a good part of my 8-ball league has.
hah...east central Illinois is interesting sometimes

mperich 10-11-2007 06:41 AM

Re: Supplement Review: Ergopharm 11-OXO
 
hey kyle,

im wondering if you ran any PCT with this or if not, if you noticed any sides coming off. ive heard differing views and I guess it depends on ur dosage etc, but was just wondering what you did personally

-Mike

Needle77 10-11-2007 04:07 PM

Re: Supplement Review: Ergopharm 11-OXO
 
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I definitely think that AMP is the better product of the two, but after reading Will Carroll's blurb and then asking around, it seems like a lot of semi-pro and pro baseball players are on 11-OXO as a replacement for now-banned substances with results similar to mine.

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I myself was looking into taking this as well, so thanks for the review. I did a bunch of research and it seems to look like it is legal in NCAA testing, I was wondering if anyone found any conflicting data. Horomones tend to not be allowed and when I asked the trainers here most of them were unsure.

Just wondering if anyone knows more than I do.


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