i might be taking this value thing too far
 

$100nl, six-handed
eff stacks: $100

i raise A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] utg to $3.50, only the BB calls.

no real reads yet (few orbits in, but seems TAG based on use of position and aggression.)

flop
3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

he leads for pot fairly quickly. anyone raise here? i ended up calling.

turn
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he c/c $18 into ~$22

river 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
he leads $42. normally i'd call or fold, but...he has $30 behind....shove it like it's hot?

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shove looks good.
edit: at 4am while writing a paper, i have trouble reading. i didnt see the board double paired, so i would just call. id still sorta want to raise though :/

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Thing is he has to have a hand that can valuebet this strong that you are ahead of. I don't see that from a tag here. Is he making this bet with 88? I doubt it. Just call..

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raise flop you have a good draw + fe!

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im not sure how you were able to physically stop yourself from instaraising the flop. as played i think the river is a call.

also is raising A2s still considered to be bad or not?

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also is raising A2s still considered to be bad or not?

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Depends on the table IMO. At most tables I wouldn't but if it's mostly nitty players to my left and a fish or two in the blinds I definitely will open it UTG.

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What's your image?
Fold pf with no reads on table. It just gets you into too much trouble when only 100BB deep.
Raise the flop to $20. You should have plenty of FE and if called you have your hearts. You can easily drop it to a raise here too as his range is surely narrowed to {overpairs, 2 pair, sets}.
Calling here is even pretty tight. I don't push here though. It's only another $30 that he will call with whatever he bet with. However, I don't think your that far ahead of his range. By the river, a call is very marginal so why make it a call for $72 instead of $42??????

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not raising flop is pretty gay. i would shove the river, i dont think hes full here v often.

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Raise the flop to $20. You should have plenty of FE and if called you have your hearts. You can easily drop it to a raise here too as his range is surely narrowed to {overpairs, 2 pair, sets}.

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You can't fold to a raise against this range. We have 12 clean outs and 3 aces that might be good. With ~45% equity we'll have too good a price to fold.

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i would raise flop for FE along with the good draws...

as played, i just call the river