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cartman 03-12-2006 06:07 PM

Lost on the turn with 98s
 
Villain is 47/11/1.2 with went to showdown = 43.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds.


Is there a better way?

Thanks,
Cartman

Josh. 03-12-2006 06:09 PM

Re: .
 
unfortunately i don't think there is

moorobot 03-13-2006 12:28 AM

Re: Lost on the turn with 98s
 
No, this villain is peeling so many flops that there is little difference between betting and check/folding the turn in terms of ev in my judgement. Just don't check and call. Josh is right as usual.

oreopimp 03-13-2006 01:12 AM

Re: Lost on the turn with 98s
 
only if you give yourself at least 7 outs.

Surf 03-13-2006 01:14 AM

Re: Lost on the turn with 98s
 
I c/f this turn, typically, but recent hands between myself and villain can alter that plan.

Surf

mr pink 03-13-2006 01:32 AM

Re: Lost on the turn with 98s
 
[ QUOTE ]
I c/f this turn, typically, but recent hands between myself and villain can alter that plan.


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do you adjust this against opponents who are v. loose w/ their requirements for peeling flops? I could see your reasoning for check/folding here but against someone who'll call that flop with J7, I think you need to bet again.

helpmeout 03-13-2006 01:37 AM

Re: Lost on the turn with 98s
 
i normally fold preflop

sometimes you can just check/fold depending on your read

Grue 03-13-2006 01:45 AM

Re: Lost on the turn with 98s
 
folding preflop is insane, what's your vpip?

Surf 03-13-2006 01:53 AM

Re: Lost on the turn with 98s
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I c/f this turn, typically, but recent hands between myself and villain can alter that plan.


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do you adjust this against opponents who are v. loose w/ their requirements for peeling flops? I could see your reasoning for check/folding here but against someone who'll call that flop with J7, I think you need to bet again.

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Yes, i do. And betting again is only helpful if he peels with junk, and then wil fold said junk on the turn, because most of that junk is ahead of hero's 9-hi which will leave us having to fire again on the river.

Surf

helpmeout 03-13-2006 02:16 AM

Re: Lost on the turn with 98s
 
28

you have a 50/50 hand oop against a guy who probably isnt folding preflop or on the flop


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