NL50: AKs flops over/nfd AND WHEEL DRAW Call or Fold?
 

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$47.75</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$43.70</font>)
MP1 (<font color="#0000cc">$72.85</font>)
MP2 (<font color="#0000cc">$16.40</font>)
MP3 (<font color="#0000cc">$48.20</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$50.00</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$49.75</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$85.05</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$55.45</font>)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 9 players) Hero is SB K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls $0.5, <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $0.5, MP3 calls $0.5, <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, <font color="#777777">UTG folds</font>, <font color="#777777">MP2 folds</font>, MP3 calls $3

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($8.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $17.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 goes all-in $44.7</font>, Hero?

I'd also like to hear if bet/3bet is better than c/r. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Any other comments welcome! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Re: AKs flops over/nfd. Call or Fold?
 

When you can't even see the wheel draw, you should drop to a lower level.

Re: AKs flops over/nfd. Call or Fold?
 

I prefer bet/3bet here. But as long as the money gets in, you're happy.

Re: AKs flops over/nfd. Call or Fold?
 

Call. Bet/3bet is infinitely better than c/r. Gotta call 27.20 to win 70.70 so you're getting 2.6:1. You need 27.77777777777% equity to call and you have 31.98% against just sets and 36.18% against all sets and A3. Pretty easy call.

Re: AKs flops over/nfd. Call or Fold?
 

Standard call here. Why didn't you make your standard c-bet here? As everyone is saying b/3b is &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;c/r

Re: AKs flops over/nfd. Call or Fold?
 

Just making sure I had my head on straight. I was at the tail end of my session and starting to doubt things I was doing (and apparently miscounting outs vs a set). Time for coffee. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: AKs flops over/nfd. Call or Fold?
 

i just bet the flop hoping to 3bai. yes easy shove.

Re: AKs flops over/nfd. Call or Fold?
 

[ QUOTE ]
Just making sure I had my head on straight. I was at the tail end of my session and starting to doubt things I was doing (and apparently miscounting outs vs a set). Time for coffee. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]Sometimes you don't even have to hit, maybe he has 3sxs


Seat 1: FeldesTo ($65.85 in chips)
Seat 3: jessyj ($61.55 in chips)
Seat 4: PolyBaller22 ($100.45 in chips)
Seat 5: mt82 ($48.10 in chips)
Seat 6: rundownhouse ($51.45 in chips)
jessyj: posts small blind $0.25
PolyBaller22: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jessyj [Ks As]
mt82: calls $0.50
rundownhouse: folds
FeldesTo: calls $0.50
jessyj: raises $2.50 to $3
PolyBaller22: folds
mt82: calls $2.50
FeldesTo: folds
*** FLOP *** [6d 8s 4s]
jessyj: bets $4.50
mt82: raises $9.50 to $14
jessyj: raises $36 to $50
mt82: calls $31.10 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [6d 8s 4s] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [6d 8s 4s 3h] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jessyj: shows [Ks As] (a pair of Eights)
mt82: mucks hand
jessyj collected $95.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $97.20 | Rake $2
Board [6d 8s 4s 3h 8h]
Seat 3: jessyj (small blind) showed [Ks As] and won ($95.20) with a pair of Eights
Seat 5: mt82 mucked [Ts 9s]

Re: AKs flops over/nfd. Call or Fold?
 

shove it home

Re: AKs flops over/nfd. Call or Fold?
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Just making sure I had my head on straight. I was at the tail end of my session and starting to doubt things I was doing (and apparently miscounting outs vs a set). Time for coffee. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]Sometimes you don't even have to hit, maybe he has 3sxs



Seat 1: FeldesTo ($65.85 in chips)
Seat 3: jessyj ($61.55 in chips)
Seat 4: PolyBaller22 ($100.45 in chips)
Seat 5: mt82 ($48.10 in chips)
Seat 6: rundownhouse ($51.45 in chips)
jessyj: posts small blind $0.25
PolyBaller22: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jessyj [Ks As]
mt82: calls $0.50
rundownhouse: folds
FeldesTo: calls $0.50
jessyj: raises $2.50 to $3
PolyBaller22: folds
mt82: calls $2.50
FeldesTo: folds
*** FLOP *** [6d 8s 4s]
jessyj: bets $4.50
mt82: raises $9.50 to $14
jessyj: raises $36 to $50
mt82: calls $31.10 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [6d 8s 4s] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [6d 8s 4s 3h] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jessyj: shows [Ks As] (a pair of Eights)
mt82: mucks hand
jessyj collected $95.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $97.20 | Rake $2
Board [6d 8s 4s 3h 8h]
Seat 3: jessyj (small blind) showed [Ks As] and won ($95.20) with a pair of Eights
Seat 5: mt82 mucked [Ts 9s]

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Touché!!