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jogsxyz 11-20-2007 07:27 PM

English-only policy
 
http://www.politicaldogs.org/2007/04...glish-only.htm

If the salvation army loses, what's next?
Will poker be required to allow players to speak
Vietnamese at the table?

xorbie 11-20-2007 07:32 PM

Re: English-only policy
 
Tax dollars hard at work... sigh.

andyfox 11-20-2007 07:45 PM

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“Under EEOC’s guidelines, an English-only rule violates the law unless the employer can provide a legitimate business justification for forcing employees to stop speaking their native language,”ť said Estela Díz, trial attorney for the EEOC’s New York District Office. “The Salvation Army presented no such justification.”ť

Requiring employees to speak English where no business necessity exists constitutes national origin discrimination under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The EEOC filed suit after first attempting to reach a voluntary settlement.

xorbie 11-20-2007 07:47 PM

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It's a bit hard to argue that "no business necessity exists" though, because being able to communicate, in general, is a business necessity.

andyfox 11-20-2007 07:57 PM

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The two employees, who were clothes sorters, had been working at the Salvation Army for about five years before the Salvation Army decided to enforce their English language rule. One would think the Salvation Army would have a hard time proving that they weren't able to communicate with them if they had already been kept on for five years.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_505139.html

PLOlover 11-20-2007 08:02 PM

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and the pundits wonder why american public is mad about illegal immigration when everyday people are explicitly told they need to be bilingual (speak spanish) in order to get a good job, keep a good job, move up the ladder, etc.

Max Raker 11-20-2007 08:04 PM

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and the pundits wonder why american public is mad about illegal immigration when everyday people are explicitly told they need to be bilingual (speak spanish) in order to get a good job, keep a good job, move up the ladder, etc.

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Passed over for that manager spot at Taco Bell?

PLOlover 11-20-2007 08:08 PM

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Passed over for that manager spot at Taco Bell?

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you don't see the double standard? maybe it's like at uni where only whites can be racist, by definition.

Max Raker 11-20-2007 08:15 PM

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Passed over for that manager spot at Taco Bell?

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you don't see the double standard? maybe it's like at uni where only whites can be racist, by definition.

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I have never heard of any professional being told they needed to learn Spanish. Not sure what you mean by double standard. I am cool with employers requiring whatever language skills they want whether it be English or anything else they think the job requires.

slickss 11-20-2007 08:20 PM

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I've never had a problem in the US without speaking a word of Spanish. That said, more Americans should probably learn to speak one or two additional languages.


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