2/4 AA kinda deep
 

$615 eff stacks

2 folds to villain who makes it $16,
he's been here a few orbits but has been quiet - if he's paying attention i've been pretty active w/ pfrs and the occasional 3bet, but i don't like nuts by any stretch. He prob isn't even paying attention, tho...
I 3bet to $50, folded back to him and he snap-calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot: $106)

He checks to me, I bet $60, he calls fast.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot: $226)

He checks to me, I bet $130(?), he insta-pushes $505.

Surf

if i'm betting this turn I should know what i'm going to do to a raise - i've been planning ahead alot more lately but was kind of autopiloting here. Thoughts?

Re: 2/4 AA kinda deep
 

Surf your bets are so tiny I call for sure here. It looks like you dont have much of a hand and you actually have AA. Bet more on flop and turn though.

Re: 2/4 AA kinda deep
 

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Surf your bets are so tiny I call for sure here. It looks like you dont have much of a hand and you actually have AA. Bet more on flop and turn though.

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They're like 3/5ths-2/3rds-ish. I remember reading awhile back that you don't need to make standard 3/4s-full psbs in RR'd pots, fwiw this is pretty consistent bet-sizing for me.

Surf

Re: 2/4 AA kinda deep
 

Surf, it is true you dont really need to bet more to charge draws here, but I would bet more to stack him by river.

Re: 2/4 AA kinda deep
 

I would check the turn for a pot controlled showdown. If he bets call if he checks bet, without more information it's impossible to know if this is KK/QQ/TT or the sets so I think a more passive line is in order.

BTW your flop bets are fine on this dry board, I don't see a point in betting more, KK c/rs here and you get it all in anyways.

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but i don't like nuts by any stretch

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good to know


unless he has 97 or 66, i don't think we can determine much from the timing. fast calls are usually weak and fast raises are usually strong. so if nothing changed between the flop and turn, then it's likely he just plays fast

you gotta call. KK probably plays it the same (you're not deep enough for KK to not go broke), and the turn put a flush draw out which gives lots of outs to all kinds of fun suited connectors that people like to call 3-bets with, like 98hh, T9hh, AJhh, QJhh. or maybe he made a semi-float on the flop with AKhh. so there's just too much doubt to fold here. KK, or a turn card that completed the rainbow, would be an interesting decision. i'd probably go broke in both cases though

and fwiw i agree with whoever said your bet sizing (which i think is fine/good) is more of a reason to call

Re: 2/4 AA kinda deep
 

Call.

Re: 2/4 AA kinda deep
 

call sir, i think he has 77/QQ/KK/naked jack often enough to call for sure. Also, i enjoy your bet sizing.

Re: 2/4 AA kinda deep
 

I would call here. Also, why did you bet the flop small?

Re: 2/4 AA kinda deep
 

bet sizing is fine, call