Timing out KK, he MUST have QQQ
 

original rocker (raiser) is 18/14/2.3 after 5500 hands

BB is 17/8/2.2 after 14k hands and is THE NITTIEST reg at this limit.
My notes on him are:
- VERY straightforward, never bluffs
- thinks I'm crazy/agro

I timed out on this one. I just couldn't see him calling two tags preflop with AQ...even AK is highly unlikely. I know, I know, my pot odds are huge, but I still think it's -EV. Agree?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $386
UTG+1: $412
CO: $1267.76
Button: $444
fooz: $416
BB: $384

Pre-flop: (6 players) fooz is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $14</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">fooz raises to $53</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($159, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">fooz bets $120</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $331</font>, UTG+1 folds, fooz folds.
Uncalled bets: $211 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $399


His flop CR is 1%.

Re: Timing out KK, he MUST have QQQ
 

I would check the flop

Re: Timing out KK, he MUST have QQQ
 

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With the intention of a c/f? Not sure what the best line is but as played I like the fold.

Re: Timing out KK, he MUST have QQQ
 

Would you be happy to get it all in vs the original PF raiser in this spot? If the answer is yes, then I think you should bet the flop with the intention of calling his shove. He likely doesn't have AA after the preflop smooth call, and his range will likely be as wide as what he opens after the BB calls.

Now, if fooz is a nitty as you say, then you don't want to get it all in vs. him. Btw, I think you made the right fold in this spot.

So, your flop line should be:
bet/fold to a raise by fooz
bet/call anything from UTG

You then have to decide what bet amount works best for those differing goals. I think 100-110 is good. You save yourself some money if fooz raises, and give UTG room to make a move, while not offering great implied odds if he calls.

Re: Timing out KK, he MUST have QQQ
 

I stoved it, and even with the great pot odds, it's still a fold. I assigned a range of QQ+, and AKhh to fooz. I imagine that range is correct. Here are the results:
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

10,890 games 0.001 secs 10,890,000 games/sec

Board: Qd 9h 3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 16.965% 12.63% 04.34% 1375 472.50 { KcKs }
Hand 1: 83.035% 78.70% 04.34% 8570 472.50 { QQ+, AhKh }

Re: Timing out KK, he MUST have QQQ
 

jerkface your avatar distracts me from making any intelligent comments

Re: Timing out KK, he MUST have QQQ
 

seems like a pretty good fold I suppose when you think about his possible holdings, unless if you knew that he would slowplay AA or set of quens more .... but ut us true that it is hard to think of a hand that you beat that he does this with unless he has AhKh which you are just barely ahead of anyways ....

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With the intention of a c/f? Not sure what the best line is but as played I like the fold.

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With the intention of c/r ai i hope b/c check folding this is criminal at 400nl

Re: Timing out KK, he MUST have QQQ
 

... I think with ur notes it's not bad

Re: Timing out KK, he MUST have QQQ
 

i dont think you need to bet as much as you did on the flop, kinda nitpicky, but 105 is enough imo.

But I almost think with ur description that a c/f is more in order then a bet fold