Top pair blind vs blind against lagfish
 

Have villain at like 40/25, pretty aggro from what I've seen and my impression is that he doesn't like to give up pots, but it's by far from a concrete read. My image is aggro tag probably. Thoughts on this?

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BTN: $634.90
Hero (SB): $531
BB: $585.10
UTG: $466.44
MP: $394
CO: $519.60

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, BB calls $12

Flop: ($32) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $26</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $77</font>, Hero calls $51

Turn: ($186) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $111</font>, Hero calls $111

River: ($408) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $381.10 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $327 and is All-In

Results: $1,062 Pot

Re: Top pair blind vs blind against lagfish
 

make a pair and pay off a fish.

Re: Top pair blind vs blind against lagfish
 

well...if u called the turn, I guess u'll need to call that river.

does he 3 bet alot? I find these 40/25 types don't 3 bet much. so AQ, QK, sometimes AK are all within his range. pluse TJ for sure.

I donno, A4 A5 is possible, but that would be pretty sick. Does he raise flop with those hands? ( u never know with unknown fishes)

however, I'd folding somewhere on the turn prob. u'r bluff catching a missed FD only, I don't know what other bluffable hand he could have.

Re: Top pair blind vs blind against lagfish
 

i am either taking this line or folding the flop/turn.

i probably can't fold the flop actually so i'd pitch the turn. people just don't bluff raise flops like that too often

Re: Top pair blind vs blind against lagfish
 

i like this a lot

i'd kind of prefer a "bad" river since i think his bluff freq is higher but i'm calling basically any river as played

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i like this a lot

i'd kind of prefer a "bad" river since i think his bluff freq is higher but i'm calling basically any river as played

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like a spade? thats horrible

Re: Top pair blind vs blind against lagfish
 

Ummm, I like folding the turn. What can you beat but a bluff?

KQ and JT seem particularly likely hands to me.

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i like this a lot

i'd kind of prefer a "bad" river since i think his bluff freq is higher but i'm calling basically any river as played

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You like this a lot because he gave a spew tard a chance to value-bet three streets?


The fish doesn't have JT, KQ?

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i like this a lot

i'd kind of prefer a "bad" river since i think his bluff freq is higher but i'm calling basically any river as played

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like a spade? thats horrible

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terp is saying that a bad river card should narrow villain's value-shoving range (like he's probably not just shoving AT anymore), so if villain does shove a bad river he's bluffing at a higher frequency, which is true imo.

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i like this a lot

i'd kind of prefer a "bad" river since i think his bluff freq is higher but i'm calling basically any river as played

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like a spade? thats horrible

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terp is saying that a bad river card should narrow villain's value-shoving range (like he's probably not just shoving AT anymore), so if villain does shove a bad river he's bluffing at a higher frequency, which is true imo.

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I get the concept of a bad river gives V more chances to bluff. HOWEVER, the way this hand played out. All the hands that are considered bluffs b4 the river will have hit, and now will be v betting. and the hands that were ahead..well..its still vbetting or checking.

this idea would make alot more sense if there was a straight draw on the table and the flush missed and the the straight draw complete.