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xdeucesx 07-27-2006 01:47 PM

So you want to play LAG?
 
OK,

So as most of us know, playing a LAG style in MTTs is one of the best methods for accumulating chips in essentially any stage of a tournament. However, I feel many newcomers to the form of Lag Tarding do not take one of the most important factors into account.

Position!

Being a good LAG is more than just raising and calling with less that marginal holdings. I feel this is one of the most important aspects to being a good LAG that many new MTT LAGS arent aware of and need to play closer attention to.

The power to act last in any giving situation is ++++++EV, so for those of you beginning to implenment Lag Tarding into your style of play, be very aware of your position in the current hand and pick your spots carefully. There is a fine line between Lag Tarding and playing recklessly.

shaundeeb 07-27-2006 02:20 PM

Re: So you want to play LAG?
 
It's funny I know that pos is key but I rather be OOP because I get to lead 100% of pots. I know it doesn't make any poker theory sense I just prefer having the option to bet first because the better takes down the pot most of the time in MTT. Plus when in EP and OOP a better player gives you more credit for a hand and fold some hands he may have led with or c/r with if OOP.

xdeucesx 07-27-2006 02:26 PM

Re: So you want to play LAG?
 
I disagree about a better player giving you more credit just because you are in early position. A better player is going to be more observant and take advantage of that fact that you are raising weak hands out of position and will use his position to his advantage.

xdeucesx 07-27-2006 02:29 PM

Re: So you want to play LAG?
 
LAG vs LAG battle in positon and out of positon whos going to win?

shaundeeb 07-27-2006 02:34 PM

Re: So you want to play LAG?
 
but if you didn't notice I try to avoid showdown at all cose even if that means folding post flop with a nice price to hit a 5 outer or overs and a gutshot etc. I try to open light but keep my hands from being shown unless I am prob going to win.

xdeucesx 07-27-2006 02:36 PM

Re: So you want to play LAG?
 
OK,

But why tighten up your range in position?

shaundeeb 07-27-2006 02:37 PM

Re: So you want to play LAG?
 
honestly I think the one OOP will take all the small pots most of the big ones and lose a few med ones. So think about it with just random numbers 65% of the small pots OOP guy wins he only wins 40% of the med but wins 60% of the big pots.

My reasoning for thinking that is the small pots first bet wins OOP has a better chance of doing that, med ones are where the 2nd raise is put in pos guy has the adv there. But for big pots a 3rd raise is usually put in and the OOP guy has a real hand and the guy in pos is much lighter and has a wider range.

AceLuby 07-27-2006 02:40 PM

Re: So you want to play LAG?
 
Gus Hanson was quoted saying he preferred to be OOP because he would be the first to bluff at the pot...

xdeucesx 07-27-2006 02:41 PM

Re: So you want to play LAG?
 
Problem solved then...Gus Hanson knows all.

shaundeeb 07-27-2006 04:27 PM

Re: So you want to play LAG?
 
But see thats where the ove thinking and higher level comes from. A good lag knows you OOP need to be more cautious post flop by being hyper aggro if he doesn't see your whole cards he doesn't know you are playing so fast with so many hands. Him thinking you have a smaller range makes it +EV for you.


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