shouldnt a room spreading ONLY shortstack NL be good for the casino?
 

was reading the florida poker thread as well as the "youre the manager of a poker room" thread and it got me to thinking that shouldnt the rooms be encouraging super short stack buyin NL games and nothing else?

the recreational players will stick around until they are able to get a deep stack, the nits will be pissed off and leave, and the pit junkies can play a super action game that will either result in a fast big win, or break him right away so he can get back to high stakes blackjack

something along the lines of only spreading 20BB games, with the smallest stakes being 2/5NL $100 buyin, next 5/10NL $200, 15/25NL $500, and 25/50NL $1k

mandatory $5 drop on any hand that sees a flop, no jackpots of any kind

i am NOT suggesting that this would be a room that all of us would like to play, but would serve the purpose of "having a poker room" to satisfy tourists that will only stay in a place that spreads poker, and does not draw the pit junkies away from their regular games.

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Hello Hawaiian Gardens

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Hardly Hawaiian gardens. Their 3/5 game has a buy-in of 200 and 5/10 game has a buy-in of 500. Their 10/20 game has 1000 min no max. Not the same thing..

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Hardly Hawaiian gardens. Their 3/5 game has a buy-in of 300 and 5/10 game has a buy-in of 500. Their 10/20 game has 1000 min no max. Not the same thing..

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FYP.

Otherwise potentially interesting thread but I gotta run [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

~ Rick

PS Have time to re-state my opinion that Hawaiian Gardens decision to spread $100 fixed buy NL with $2-$3 blinds (and eventually get about five games going most days) one year or so before the WPT first aired was a milestone. IMO it was as important as hole card camaras and the Chris Moneymaker win to fueling the explosion in no limit poker.

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Hardly Hawaiian gardens. Their 3/5 game has a buy-in of 200 and 5/10 game has a buy-in of 500. Their 10/20 game has 1000 min no max. Not the same thing..

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I was referring to their 40NL and 20NL

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For a long time Luxor had a 50 min/max buyin at the 1/2 NL tables. Not sure what it is today.

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Yeah I played the hard rock in tampa last saturday the 1/2 game is basically shove and I didnt play the 2/5 100max nl game but I couldnt imagine it being anything more than waiting for aces and kings and shoving

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My local casinos have a max buy-in of $60 for 1/2, then it bumps up to $300 for 1/3. Which is a large difference.

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My local casinos have a max buy-in of $60 for 1/2, then it bumps up to $300 for 1/3. Which is a large difference.

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$60 for 1/2? How lame is that... just go straight to the 1/3 game.

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Welcome to the Commerce Casino.

2/3 100 Min/MAX
3/5 200 Min/Max NL

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Welcome to the Commerce Casino.

2/3 100 Min/MAX
3/5 200 Min/Max NL

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1 - commerce isnt a real casino and does not have the same concerns about driving away pit degenerates and slot players

2 - those games are still deeper than what i would consider super short stacked

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For a long time Luxor had a 50 min/max buyin at the 1/2 NL tables. Not sure what it is today.

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games like this are exactly what i mean, serious players dont like them but for walk in tourists that want to play NL holdem like on TV, this is PERFECT especially considering the average tourist is betting red chips at the BJ table anyway

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My local casinos have a max buy-in of $60 for 1/2, then it bumps up to $300 for 1/3. Which is a large difference.

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$60 for 1/2? How lame is that... just go straight to the 1/3 game.

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I usually do. I played the 1/2 for a while, but I couldn't stand the immense short-stacking. The 2-5 tables all have $1,000 max's, which is so very enticing.

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For a long time Luxor had a 50 min/max buyin at the 1/2 NL tables. Not sure what it is today.

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games like this are exactly what i mean, serious players dont like them but for walk in tourists that want to play NL holdem like on TV, this is PERFECT especially considering the average tourist is betting red chips at the BJ table anyway

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I f.ckin HATE that Luxor game.
I swore off that crap game a long time ago.
Then went back once and swore it off again.

But yeah, I agree, for the clueless tourist, OMG THEY PLAYED UNLIMITED HOLDEM. I personally would rather drink bleach than play a game like that ever again, though. If I feel like playing retard poker, I'll play the Sahara.

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For a long time Luxor had a 50 min/max buyin at the 1/2 NL tables. Not sure what it is today.

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games like this are exactly what i mean, serious players dont like them but for walk in tourists that want to play NL holdem like on TV, this is PERFECT especially considering the average tourist is betting red chips at the BJ table anyway

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I f.ckin HATE that Luxor game.
I swore off that crap game a long time ago.
Then went back once and swore it off again.

But yeah, I agree, for the clueless tourist, OMG THEY PLAYED UNLIMITED HOLDEM. I personally would rather drink bleach than play a game like that ever again, though. If I feel like playing retard poker, I'll play the Sahara.

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does anyone from the casino industry have any insight as to why casinos wouldnt do this? (especially the ones lacking real competition like f'woods and turning stone and casino AZ)