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livestream 11-20-2007 01:08 PM

nl1000 set Jacks
 
effective stacks 1200USD and i cc Jacks from the SB. BB calls too. UTG was the raiser and 1caller. so 4player total

flop comes Ts Jh 9h

i donk bet the flop for 100, UTG calls , UTG+1 made it to 300.

Whats the best line here and for the turn in a fullring game? UTG is very likely on TP or FD. would explain his flat call. When i call here he has good odds to call with the flush draw. On the other hand is the range from UTG+1 very small for a reraise(even if he is little too loose).

reraise 700? AI if have a decent equity against a made str8 und good one against a FD.

CalledDownLight 11-20-2007 01:11 PM

Re: nl1000 set Jacks
 
shove. How big was the pot on the flop?

RyanCMU 11-20-2007 01:13 PM

Re: nl1000 set Jacks
 
No reads? How much was pot on the flop?

AllTheCheese 11-20-2007 01:16 PM

Re: nl1000 set Jacks
 
Shove. Write the action in the order it occured.

moldman 11-20-2007 01:19 PM

Re: nl1000 set Jacks
 
Shove.

1) If you re-raise, you're committed to the hand anyway and not folding.

2) A shove also looks like you might be on a draw yourself, so you might get called a bit lighter.

3) You mention UTG+1 is loose, so he's likely to call with anything.

4) You have the 3rd nuts, and redraws to fill up. Get it in now and good luck!

livestream 11-20-2007 01:20 PM

Re: nl1000 set Jacks
 
3.5BB raise from UTG

next hands contains more details.
no profound reads, i multitable. i need more played hands to get reads when i multitable. we have only played 28 hands so far.

CalledDownLight 11-20-2007 01:27 PM

Re: nl1000 set Jacks
 
this is online? I thought it was live.

livestream 11-20-2007 01:37 PM

Re: nl1000 set Jacks
 
yeah online.

AdamBragar 11-20-2007 01:48 PM

Re: nl1000 set Jacks
 
I think donking this flop is not so good unless your image is super lag and then it doesn't matter how you play this hand. Once you donk and then push, your opponent has got to think either you have a straight and flush draw or more likely you've got a monster hand. He's probably only pushing w/ a hand that beats you. I'd just checkraise the flop because that gives any 2 pr+ hand more of a chance to put more money into the pot.

There's really no way I'm folding top set here effectively 1 buy in deep even though you're going to be beat a decent amount of the time you get action.

CalledDownLight 11-20-2007 01:57 PM

Re: nl1000 set Jacks
 
Well, its still time to shove although I think a c/r is better online.


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