Re: How to play when folded to on the sb against a good player?
 

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I will definitely limp/call AA in the right situation.

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That's fine and good, but I can't imagine that the right situation to limp/call with AA OOP comes up as often as the right situation to do it with 79.

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The right situation may be a bb who raises very frequently and overvalues the 'initiative' (which is really a make believe thing anyways)

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It exists because people believe it exists. You can choose not to check to the raiser if you wish, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

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The point is, I change my sb strategy a lot

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That's fair enough, and I'm all for experimenting, but I can't come up with anything aside from very contrived scenarios from which the conclusion of "limp your whole range" follows, even if you are only using that strategy as one of your gears.

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I just fold alot.

Re: How to play when folded to on the sb against a good player?
 

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Anyway I just prefer to raise and I've never seen anyone put a good argument towards open-limping in the SB anyway

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Don't get me wrong, I don't make any sort of habit out of it, but broad sweeping assumptions like "open limping the SB is retarded" just make you look like an idiot.

Just as an example, if you knew he was going to raise a ridiculous % of his range if you limped, and you knew that he was going to call and try to outplay you with a ridiculous % of his range if you raise, limp re-raising becomes very appealing alternative with strong hands.

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Doesn't sound like a good player then, just a lagtard. I should have edited to say that it seems retarded to me, I know there are very rare spots but as a general statement I don't think I was wrong anyway

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I just fold alot.

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Underrated advice. Good players love to call raises in the BB there w/ a large range and hate folding to c-bets in BvB battles.

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Never give a free card to a good player with position.

In this position I never limp; I tighten my PF range then either raise or fold, with the occasional bluff.

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I just fold alot.

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How much?

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I open up a new table lol. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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interesting thread, same as what i was asking but i just picked 99 as an example.

i agree with tommo. equally though i think you can have more of a raise/fold strategy.

the most important factor is being able to change your game based on how your blind battles have gone the last few times, and be able to exploit his view of you to your advantage. by constantly being aware of his view of you, so you can constantly either tighten, loosen, be more or less aggressive depending on how to exploit his view of you.

without the ability to adapt your play based on his changing view of you (based on how you have played the last few hands vs him), you will lose, but with such ability and always being 'one step ahead' in using your image advantageously, then you should come out ahead.

im sure this is pretty fundamental stuff and something most will know, but something i think is definitely valid with all hands, especially in such regular heads up scenarios.