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OSUGreg1983 11-25-2007 03:31 PM

TPGK c/min raise and further street pressure
 
Villain 20/15 over a short sample size. Haven't been at the table for more than about 20 hands, but getting cards and tons of action. Have not been caught bluffing; villain hasn't splashed around much since I've been here.

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $6.45
BTN: $11
SB: $8.95
BB: $10
Hero (UTG): $20.20

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, CO calls $0.40, BTN folds, SB calls $0.35, BB folds

Flop: ($1.30) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.95</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $1.90</font>, Hero calls $0.95

Turn: ($5.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $1.90</font>, Hero calls $1.90

River: ($8.90) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $4.75 and is All-In</font>, Hero is getting nearly 3-1

sivadom 11-25-2007 03:39 PM

Re: TPGK c/min raise and further street pressure
 
I call the river. There are missed hearts in his range and the turn looks like a blocking bet. I think a 20/15 would raise better aces preflop especially with two players before him, and an 8 also seems unlikely based on preflop action. Sticky spot, i'm interested to hear other opinions.

OSUGreg1983 11-25-2007 04:08 PM

Re: TPGK c/min raise and further street pressure
 
I would like to hear from others as well.

I think marginal players like myself struggle with this situation the most often, especially since the turn bet is bringing us along for the ride.

OSUGreg1983 11-25-2007 05:16 PM

Re: TPGK c/min raise and further street pressure
 
Would anyone play it different up to the river?

Nick C 11-25-2007 08:16 PM

Re: TPGK c/min raise and further street pressure
 
If you lost, then this is one of those irritating hands where Villain took a trappy line and it worked. But I don't see a fold anywhere.

But if Villain had just checkraised the flop to $3 or $4, I don't think I would have found a fold then either. So he shouldn't be feeling too proud of himself, really.

Edit: Anyway, I think this is just one of those awkward spots where if the money all goes in, more often than not, you lose. But Villain will have a worse ace sometimes and will be bluffing at you sometimes, and I'm just not seeing a confident fold you can make either.

bsball8806 11-25-2007 08:19 PM

Re: TPGK c/min raise and further street pressure
 
Flop is WA/WB, see no reason to raise.
Turn is an obvious call. River is more questionable, but I think you call. You haven't shown too much strength other than your continuation bet (you've just called him down), so he may think any A with a kicker that plays is good.

anthb7210p 11-25-2007 08:44 PM

Re: TPGK c/min raise and further street pressure
 
I know it sucks but probably just fold the flop. I don't see you really ever being ahead in this situation (3 way pot)

QuadLaser 11-25-2007 09:30 PM

Re: TPGK c/min raise and further street pressure
 
I fold flop. Min raise is for monsters, you don't have much invested. Diff situation with a 33/20/7 opp., but a 20/15 I dump this.

bsball8806 11-25-2007 09:56 PM

Re: TPGK c/min raise and further street pressure
 
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I know it sucks but probably just fold the flop. I don't see you really ever being ahead in this situation (3 way pot)
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weak/tight leak

ispiked 11-25-2007 11:13 PM

Re: TPGK c/min raise and further street pressure
 
Is villain really retarded enough to check-minraise a weaker Ace or a flush draw on this flop and then bet three streets for value?

That said, I've called people down in this spot to be shown a busted flush draw, but I didn't feel calling them down was the correct play.

I'm probably folding river, personally. I, for one, don't have enough balls to fire three streets like this without a made hand.


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