100NL QQ hand vs 2p2er
 

CO is Vizer02, I have him at 17/8/2 over 5k hands. he is solid
UTG+2 is terrible, 40/30 or something over 70 hands, haven't seen him before today

I have been about 14/9 at this table

the initial raise is basically meaningless, but after the 3bet I wasn't sure what to do. I basically played it to set mine, I didn't think raising was a good idea but should I really be folding queens there? I think my post flop play is basically standard so comments on pre plz

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG+1: $107.65
UTG+2: $87.40
MP1: $100.60
MP2: $39
CO: $204.20
BTN: $94.10
Hero (SB): $99
BB: $13.20
UTG: $134.05

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $10</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $9.50, <font color="red">BB raises to $13.20 and is All-In</font>, UTG+2 calls $11.20, CO calls $3.20, Hero calls $3.20

Flop: ($52.80) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players - 1 is All-In)
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks

Turn: ($52.80) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players - 1 is All-In)
<font color="red">Hero bets $35</font>, UTG+2 folds, CO curses and folds

rest of hand is irrelevant

Re: 100NL QQ hand vs 2p2er
 

Set mining Queens is terrible here, you're getting bad odds OOP. If CO is good, as you say he is, he can be ISO repopping donkey-boy with AJ+, 99+. You're way ahead here with QQ. I call and go broke on favorable flops.

Re: 100NL QQ hand vs 2p2er
 

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Re: 100NL QQ hand vs 2p2er
 

You know that co is good. Therefore, you know that co will know that utg+2 sucks. The 3-bet doesn't mean a huge hand, it means CO wants to play the tard HU IP.

I'm 4-betting to $30.

Re: 100NL QQ hand vs 2p2er
 

I'd 4bet vizer here every time.

Re: 100NL QQ hand vs 2p2er
 

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You know that co is good. Therefore, you know that co will know that utg+2 sucks. The 3-bet doesn't mean a huge hand, it means CO wants to play the tard HU IP.

I'm 4-betting to $30.

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Ok I like that, I felt I was pretty weak. Assuming UTG+2 folds, are we folding to a shove? at that point I'm calling $69 to see $132 in the pot, about 1.9:1

Re: 100NL QQ hand vs 2p2er
 

I 4-bet QQ, but what would do you guys do with JJ in these spots?

Re: 100NL QQ hand vs 2p2er
 

I call a shove from the tard, fold to a shove from vizer.

I don't see how JJ would be played any differently here.

Re: 100NL QQ hand vs 2p2er
 

I don't see any point at which you should be folding pre-flop, here.

CO could be raising a meaningless raise by a donkey with all sorts. If you had position, I'd be re-raising with QQ. Since you don't, I think calling is fine to see whether you get a good flop.

After that, calling for another $3.20 is a total no brainer, isn't it?

Re: 100NL QQ hand vs 2p2er
 

This is a stupid question that I should know the answer to and a little bit of a hijack, but what would I have had to 3-bet to in order for the action to be opened up after the BB pushes? Isn't it like 1/2 of their stack?