Odds for any 2
 

What kind of odds do you need to push with any 2 ...thinking mainly of later stages in MTT.

How about to call?
How about to call a bet + caller?

Thanks a lot!

Re: Odds for any 2
 

This is one example of why I'm asking. Seem to get in this situation a lot though!

I folded because I didn't think I would be good against a raiser and a caller, turns out I would have flopped a nice hand, but was it the correct decision?

PokerStars Game #13337698828: Tournament #67668615, $11+$1 Holdem No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/11/19 - 12:38:16 (ET)
Table 67668615 20 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: carrigeen (8735 in chips)
Seat 2: Roys Jets (4840 in chips)
Seat 3: cedric27 (7090 in chips)
Seat 4: Miros (7324 in chips)
Seat 5: lianewayne (19864 in chips)
Seat 6: xxfuchsxx (4805 in chips)
Seat 7: Hero (1430 in chips)
Seat 8: bobbyfitta (5095 in chips)
Seat 9: spinner87 (11092 in chips)
carrigeen: posts the ante 50
Roys Jets: posts the ante 50
cedric27: posts the ante 50
Miros: posts the ante 50
lianewayne: posts the ante 50
xxfuchsxx: posts the ante 50
Hero: posts the ante 50
bobbyfitta: posts the ante 50
spinner87: posts the ante 50
xxfuchsxx: posts small blind 300
Hero: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [6d 8c]
bobbyfitta: folds
spinner87: folds
carrigeen: raises 1200 to 1800
Roys Jets: calls 1800
cedric27: folds
Miros: folds
lianewayne: folds
xxfuchsxx: folds
Hero: folds
*** FLOP *** [8s 4h 6c]
carrigeen: checks
Roys Jets: bets 2990 and is all-in
carrigeen: calls 2990
Hero said, "doh"
*** TURN *** [8s 4h 6c] [Tc]
Hero said, "68"
*** RIVER *** [8s 4h 6c Tc] [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
carrigeen: shows [Ah Qc] (high card Ace)
Roys Jets: shows [9h 9c] (a pair of Nines)
Roys Jets collected 10930 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10930 | Rake 0
Board [8s 4h 6c Tc Js]
Seat 1: carrigeen showed [Ah Qc] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 2: Roys Jets showed [9h 9c] and won (10930) with a pair of Nines
Seat 3: cedric27 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: Miros folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: lianewayne (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: xxfuchsxx (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Hero (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: bobbyfitta folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 9: spinner87 folded before Flop (didnt bet)

I think there was approx 25/180 left, top 18 paid.

I then went on to get lucky a few times and numbers dropped pretty quickly - though obviously needed to with less than a BB left.

Re: Odds for any 2
 

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*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [6d 8c]...
Hero: folds

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I'd have folded and hoped for a better starting hand on the small blind. But I don't think it wouldn't have been wrong to make a stand with any two cards.

I'm not one of the experts on 2+2, and I'm not a tournament player. I can't even hazard a guess regarding the odds needed.

Re: Odds for any 2
 

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I'd have folded and hoped for a better starting hand on the small blind. But I don't think it wouldn't have been wrong to make a stand with any two cards.

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Bump so someone can answer the odds question.

You're in a situation where you have little more than two big blinds. At all costs, don't allow yourself to be blinded out like Broomcorn's uncle. You need to push with any two cards before you get under three big blinds. Of course, you can get extremely shortstacked if you're all in and have your opponent barely covered.

It's clear that you can't push your opponents out of the pot with as little as you have. That's why I said I'd hope to have a better hand on the small blind.