Very basic AK
 

No reads except that villain was 19/5 in small sample. I sometimes like to call in this spot to under-rep my hand and get more action postflop, but off course 3-betting is fine too. I didn't raise flop because I figure he has 4 or less outs if behind, and he folds his bluffs or w/e if I raise. He bet the turn pretty quick. How do you interpret this bet? If I call there will be 415 in the pot with 250 behind. Can I fold even for that price on the river? Note it is full ring.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $402.00
BB: $436.40
UTG: $103.05
UTG+1: $276.15
MP1: $773.20
MP2: $441.70
MP3: $403.50
Hero (CO): $400.00
BTN: $883.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $4.00, MP1 calls $4.00, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $16.00</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls $16.00, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $12.00, MP1 calls $12.00

Flop: ($70) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="red">MP2 bets $36.00</font>, Hero calls $36.00, 2 folds

Turn: ($142) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets $136.00</font>, Hero

Re: Very basic AK
 

I see too many players...

fold turn.

Re: Very basic AK
 

isnt 3-betting pf horrendous given full ring? i actually have no idea tbh. FRLOL

anyhoo, disregarding pf, flop pretty std. the change in his bet sizing is very scary i think. his flop bet i think is either very strong or very weak (i think this is a decent flop to cbet with whatever hand).

with the change in his bet sizing on the turn, it generally looks like he wants the money in. its unlikely that your floating the flop (and it is possible that he could be betting larger in hopes to charge you for something like QT[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or whatever). anyways, given this action, i typically dump. interested to see what others do.

Re: Very basic AK
 

tiny raise preflop followed by small flop bet into multiway pot followed by the big turn bet really makes me want to fold

Re: Very basic AK
 

I def dump this turn. I wont comment on FR preflop.

Re: Very basic AK
 

What kind of range do you put him on. I'll take a stab

AA - 25%
AK - 20%
KQ - 15%
Jx - 15%
spades/AQ/random junk - 25%

Now against that range turn is an easy shove or call and call. I guess I could fold some rivers, namely spades or a Q. About 280 + 250 = 530 to win if I shove, risking 350. Seems like a no brainer all-in against that range and given stack sizes. But I dunno .

Re: Very basic AK
 

u having the ace of spades makes this a fold imo

full ring is a form of poker that doesnt warrant such aggressive thinking (ie i feel your assigned range doesnt give him enough credit). people tend to have it way more often. as such, i hate ace king in FR.

Re: Very basic AK
 

Jx &gt;40%
AK 10%
KQ &lt;10%
AA 15%
And spades + random junk the rest

Re: Very basic AK
 

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What kind of range do you put him on. I'll take a stab

AA - 25%
AK - 20%
KQ - 15%
Jx - 15%
spades/AQ/random junk - 25%

Now against that range turn is an easy shove or call and call. I guess I could fold some rivers, namely spades or a Q. About 280 + 250 = 530 to win if I shove, risking 350. Seems like a no brainer all-in against that range and given stack sizes. But I dunno .

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i know your sample size is small, but is a 19/5 raising up KQ/JT type hands pre-flop. maybe KQs. i'd give some credence to him holding AJs as well.

also, I feel like 25% is too frequent a number to give him for a non-made hand.

Re: Very basic AK
 

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isnt 3-betting pf horrendous given full ring? i actually have no idea tbh. FRLOL

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Why would it be, unless you think he raises only KK+ here!?!

I dump the turn here, prolly, but I never play FR online.