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TruFloridaGator 09-30-2007 04:30 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
Dan Mullen had an emergency appendectomy on Friday night, now we can blame it on the drugs he was on [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

barryc83 09-30-2007 04:40 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
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For barry:

B. Mitchell 0/0 0 0 0 0

J. Wilson 28/53 240 4.5 2 0

JPW is looking like an inefficient passer who racks up yards by making a ton of attempts. I can't wait until he lights up that LSU D!

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We were comparing JPW to BM. Not Bama vs USC or the two offenses or the QB play. We were comparing two specific players. Even if JPW plays like he has against UGA/FSU every single game, he's still better than Blake Mitchell.

Also, the Bama/FSU game is a perfect example of where the stats don't tell the whole story. Did you watch the game? JPW played like absolute crap for the first 53 minutes of the game. He had zero TDs in that time and I would guess <100 yds, but probably close. His end of the game stats really aren't that bad, they're not great but not terrible. Plus he fumbled on our own 5 yard line late in the game. He played really really poorly for the majority of the game, but the stats don't say that. And yes he will have more yards than Blake Mitchell in the LSU game. Like I said I will take Brandon Cox every single time over BM.

On a side note, how can Auburn have a good kicker every single year? That just baffles me.

TruFloridaGator 09-30-2007 04:48 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
I'm pumped for the LSU game & wish I could go. I think the UF D has made some strides & we just have to focus on stopping the run again. We could of played more aggressive, especially against Cox but hopefully that will come.

The offense obviously will be fine if our coaches can figure out how to play call. Auburn played great D but when we wanted to throw we could.

VayaConDios 09-30-2007 04:54 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
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For barry:

B. Mitchell 0/0 0 0 0 0

J. Wilson 28/53 240 4.5 2 0

JPW is looking like an inefficient passer who racks up yards by making a ton of attempts. I can't wait until he lights up that LSU D!

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We were comparing JPW to BM. Not Bama vs USC or the two offenses or the QB play. We were comparing two specific players. Even if JPW plays like he has against UGA/FSU every single game, he's still better than Blake Mitchell.

Also, the Bama/FSU game is a perfect example of where the stats don't tell the whole story. Did you watch the game? JPW played like absolute crap for the first 53 minutes of the game. He had zero TDs in that time and I would guess <100 yds, but probably close. His end of the game stats really aren't that bad, they're not great but not terrible. Plus he fumbled on our own 5 yard line late in the game. He played really really poorly for the majority of the game, but the stats don't say that. And yes he will have more yards than Blake Mitchell in the LSU game. Like I said I will take Brandon Cox every single time over BM.

On a side note, how can Auburn have a good kicker every single year? That just baffles me.

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Are you saying that TD passes are more or less valuable late in the game? I'm just trying to gain some insight into exactly how you value performance.

Also, I'm still waiting for some actual evidence the JPW is a better QB. I know it sounds crazy, but most folks look at things like completion percentage and yards per attempt when evaluating performance. Not many folks put much credence in the Barry Clutch Index.

Also, JPW would be benched in favor of Smelley, just like Blake was.

barryc83 09-30-2007 05:12 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
2007 stats

BM 41/68 60.3% 5.75YPA 391 3TD 4INT

JPW 100/186 53.8% 5.87YPA 1091 6TD 3INT 2 rushing TDs

JPW (4 games) 72/133 54.1% 6.39YPA 851 4TD 3TD 2 rushing TDs

So JPW throws for more TDs, less INTs, gets more yards per attempted throw, and runs for TDs too.

/argument

VayaConDios 09-30-2007 05:14 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
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2007 stats

BM 41/68 60.3% 5.75YPA 391 3TD 4INT

JPW 100/186 53.8% 5.87YPA 1091 6TD 3INT 2 rushing TDs

JPW (4 games) 72/133 54.1% 6.39YPA 851 4TD 3TD 2 rushing TDs

So JPW throws for more TDs, less INTs, gets more yards per attempted throw, and runs for TDs too.

/argument

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Your position was that Blake is "just slightly above terrible" and that "JPW >>>>>> BM." The stats bear out that they are similar quarterbacks. And I'm SHOCKED that you completely ignore last year's stats.

futuredoc85 09-30-2007 05:43 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
TFG- losing a game like that can bring a football team together in ways that arent really quantifiable. Even when it is unspoken there is the feeling at practice the next week that no one has any faith in the team except for the people playing on it that will give them an extra energy for the LSU game IMO

orange 09-30-2007 05:54 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
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that no one has any faith in the team except for the people playing on it

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http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/l...ith1_getty.jpg

TruFloridaGator 09-30-2007 06:47 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
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TFG- losing a game like that can bring a football team together in ways that arent really quantifiable. Even when it is unspoken there is the feeling at practice the next week that no one has any faith in the team except for the people playing on it that will give them an extra energy for the LSU game IMO

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Definitely. I'm not unhappy or upset really. You really have to play great every week to win especially vs a good team like Auburn. Yes, Auburn has had a rough season but people forget that a team can still be good at times or put it together. I expect Auburn to have a great season the rest of the way. The sky is falling for many people around here, though.

futuredoc85 09-30-2007 07:42 PM

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that no one has any faith in the team except for the people playing on it

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http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/l...ith1_getty.jpg

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exactly what i meant. god why did we have to drop one to MSU. if USF keeps winning and AU turns it around that game is going to be huge [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].

ASPoker8 09-30-2007 08:20 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
<---- going to LSU game

MyTurn2Raise 09-30-2007 09:08 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
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<---- going to LSU game

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i'm jealous

if I wasn't going to Illinois/Wisconsin, I'd be heading down to Baton Rouge and buying some tickets

game is going to be huge

orange 09-30-2007 10:05 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
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<---- going to LSU game

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i'm jealous as hell.

time4adrank 09-30-2007 10:13 PM

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<---- going to LSU game

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sitting next to student section ftw
playing for the student section ftw
lsu band = the nuts

vulturesrow 09-30-2007 10:39 PM

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<---- going to LSU game

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i'm jealous as hell.

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me too LDO.

UATrewqaz 10-01-2007 11:28 AM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
Florida's "gameplan" if you wanna call it that, was terrible.

They are going to get Tebow f'ing killed if they try to use him like that every game for the rest of his career.

Austiger 10-01-2007 01:11 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...bobbynikki.jpg

vulturesrow 10-01-2007 01:27 PM

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Florida's "gameplan" if you wanna call it that, was terrible.

They are going to get Tebow f'ing killed if they try to use him like that every game for the rest of his career.

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Yeah the game against Ol' Miss was a case of taking what the defense was giving you. Auburn, however, was clearly prioritizing stopping the Tebow run game. Again, giving your starting running back 3 carries is not a recipe for success. I cant overstate my disappointment with the coaching in this game. Its not like UF has to to play "Tebow and a cloud of dust", they have plenty of top tier playmakers. I just dont get it.

NozeCandy 10-01-2007 01:33 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
To be fair, Tebow is going to share in the blame for getting himself killed. There was one play where he could have easily stepped out of bounds but instead chose to get rocked with no noticeable difference in yardage gained.

pvn 10-01-2007 02:58 PM

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http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...bobbynikki.jpg

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http://maroonandwhitemag.com/images/...lvester-a2.jpg

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8357/abuurnau4.jpg

Austiger 10-01-2007 03:29 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
pvn- pretty weak attempt.

I hope you enjoyed the two weeks where you thought you didn't suck anymore.

pvn 10-01-2007 03:41 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
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pvn- pretty weak attempt.

I hope you enjoyed the two weeks where you thought you didn't suck anymore.

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http://maroonandwhitemag.com/images/...lvester-a2.jpg

Austiger 10-01-2007 04:22 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...labama_195.jpg

TomCollins 10-01-2007 04:28 PM

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http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8357/abuurnau4.jpg

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I'm impressed that someone from an SEC school that doesn't rhyme with Tandertilt managed to figure out which letters were in Auburn and how many of each to use.

Austiger 10-01-2007 04:44 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
Okay, I'll try and add something constructive. Thoughts on this week's games?

VAN at AUB11:30
LAT at UM1:00
UAB at MSU1:30
HOU at ALA2:00
UGA at TEN3:30
UTC at ARK6:00
FLA at LSU8:28

UATrewqaz 10-01-2007 05:10 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
LSU and UGA win comfortably

The other games go as one would expect

Austiger 10-01-2007 06:02 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
UGA really? Tennessee rolls over and dies at home?

(I agree about LSU)

mmbt0ne 10-01-2007 06:22 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
UGA is a 2.5 point dog. So go ahead and get your mortgage ready!

TruFloridaGator 10-01-2007 08:33 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
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LSU and UGA win comfortably

The other games go as one would expect

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Like every week I'm sure.

TruFloridaGator 10-01-2007 08:41 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
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LSU and UGA win comfortably

The other games go as one would expect

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Also, how much is comfortable? I see these games being very close.

VayaConDios 10-01-2007 09:00 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
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Okay, I'll try and add something constructive. Thoughts on this week's games?

VAN at AUB11:30
LAT at UM1:00
UAB at MSU1:30
HOU at ALA2:00
UGA at TEN3:30
UTC at ARK6:00
FLA at LSU8:28

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I think there is a game being played Thursday night.

barryc83 10-01-2007 09:47 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
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pvn- pretty weak attempt.

I hope you enjoyed the two weeks where you thought you didn't suck anymore.

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The records are the same, except Bamas schedule is way easier than yours.

UATrewqaz 10-01-2007 09:58 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
10+

Just my hunches

pvn 10-01-2007 11:16 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
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LSU and UGA win comfortably

The other games go as one would expect

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Also, how much is comfortable? I see these games being very close.

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I don't make predictions often, but I think this is going to be a bloodbath.

Tebow hasn't seen a defense this good, and the Gator defense hasn't seen an offense this good.

LSU 42
FLA 14

TomCollins 10-01-2007 11:37 PM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
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LSU and UGA win comfortably

The other games go as one would expect

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Also, how much is comfortable? I see these games being very close.

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I don't make predictions often, but I think this is going to be a bloodbath.

Tebow hasn't seen a defense this good, and the Gator defense hasn't seen an offense this good.

LSU 42
FLA 14

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You think Florida puts up that many?

vulturesrow 10-02-2007 12:08 AM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
I wonder if you guys would be saying this if Florida had beaten Auburn this weekend?

bills217 10-02-2007 12:12 AM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
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Okay, I'll try and add something constructive. Thoughts on this week's games?

VAN at AUB11:30
LAT at UM1:00
UAB at MSU1:30
HOU at ALA2:00
UGA at TEN3:30
UTC at ARK6:00
FLA at LSU8:28

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There is a fairly critical game absent from this list.

Austiger 10-02-2007 12:23 AM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
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Okay, I'll try and add something constructive. Thoughts on this week's games?

VAN at AUB11:30
LAT at UM1:00
UAB at MSU1:30
HOU at ALA2:00
UGA at TEN3:30
UTC at ARK6:00
FLA at LSU8:28

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There is a fairly critical game absent from this list.

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UKY at USC7:30 Thur.

bills217 10-02-2007 12:23 AM

Re: 2007 SEC Football Thread
 
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/3...t020019eg6.gif





Just thought I'd let that sink in a bit.


Also good for laughs:

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/8...onmakerio2.jpg

Courtesy of EDSBS

Russ M. 10-02-2007 12:26 AM

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Also good for laughs:
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/8...onmakerio2.jpg


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I lol'ed


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