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fisheater11 11-14-2007 01:32 AM

50 NL KK facing turn raise line check
 
Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $44.85
BB: $50
UTG: $53
Hero (UTG+1): $54.95
UTG+2: $23.75
MP1: $49.65
MP2: $50.95
CO: $54.55
BTN: $16.75

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG+1)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, 3 folds, CO calls $1.50, 2 folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, CO calls $3.50, BB folds

Turn: ($11.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $18</font>, Hero folds

Results: $27.75 Pot ($27.75 Rake)

vm1124 11-14-2007 01:48 AM

Re: 50 NL KK facing turn raise line check
 
nice hand.

ranka 11-14-2007 02:56 AM

Re: 50 NL KK facing turn raise line check
 
Raise more preflop, I would add one extra BB. Flop is ok but turn isn't. I would call the turn, folding is too weak. Anyone raising it ?

wikemang 11-14-2007 03:15 AM

Re: 50 NL KK facing turn raise line check
 
He's probably not going crazy with J-x, a turned flush draw, TT, 99, or 89. Readless I'd assume villain is reraising QQ preflop, so I don't think it's too likely in this spot. Most players at 50NL aren't capable of floating with AXd or other diamonds and semibluffing the turn with a flush draw. I feel like we're beat here more often than not by a set (88, 77, 66, maybe JJ) or a turned straight. I think a fold is correct here, but I don't know if I would be able to do it in the heat of the moment. More than likely I'm calling and evaluating the river.

PokahPokah 11-14-2007 10:01 AM

Re: 50 NL KK facing turn raise line check
 
your shown sets to often here. i raise 4bb pf fwiw...

PLAYOFFS 11-14-2007 12:05 PM

Re: 50 NL KK facing turn raise line check
 
Raise more pf, good fold. You have to fold or reraise this turn.

ship_it_trebek 11-14-2007 01:17 PM

Re: 50 NL KK facing turn raise line check
 
[ QUOTE ]
More than likely I'm calling and evaluating the river.

[/ QUOTE ]

This leaves us with less than half of a PSB on the river and most cards are going to be blanks here. We have to make our decision on the turn.

oakrdrzfan 11-14-2007 04:15 PM

Re: 50 NL KK facing turn raise line check
 
Fold is the right line. You see a set, 2 pr, or straight a lot here. The flop was pretty dry with the exception of a small straight.

Knowing your villains' fold to cbet is helpful in this spot. If they are like 75% and they call, then they have at least something.

The Eureka Kid 11-14-2007 06:55 PM

Re: 50 NL KK facing turn raise line check
 
Unless you have stats/reads that suggest the villain isn't straightforward, good laydown.


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