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shawny boy 11-09-2007 01:46 PM

Carbon Tax or Cap and Trade
 
Which is better and why?

bobman0330 11-09-2007 03:17 PM

Re: Carbon Tax or Cap and Trade
 
Tax - administrative efficiency.

EDIT: plus it's more economically accurate. Say we cap CO2 emissions at 10 million tons/year. 10 million tons/year will be produced, even if the least-valuable CO2 use is less (or more) valuable than the marginal harm of that use. If it's a properly-set tax, only those CO2-producing activities that do more good than harm will be done.

tomdemaine 11-09-2007 03:25 PM

Re: Carbon Tax or Cap and Trade
 
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Wow. You must have to try pretty hard to get so many fallacies out of so few words.

shawny boy 11-09-2007 03:31 PM

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Wow. You must have to try pretty hard to get so many fallacies out of so few words.

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WTF? What fallacies does my question contain?

mosdef 11-09-2007 03:33 PM

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Wow. You must have to try pretty hard to get so many fallacies out of so few words.

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WTF? What fallacies does my question contain?

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You left out option 3 - do nothing. It suggests a the "fallacy" that something must be done and here are the two options.

tomdemaine 11-09-2007 03:37 PM

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Wow. You must have to try pretty hard to get so many fallacies out of so few words.

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WTF? What fallacies does my question contain?

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Well begging the question and false dichotomy for starters and we'll work from there.

shawny boy 11-09-2007 03:37 PM

Re: Carbon Tax or Cap and Trade
 
I didn't ask what the ideal solution was, I asked which was the better option.

mosdef 11-09-2007 03:38 PM

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What if they're both bad? Then neither is "better", there's just "least bad".

tomdemaine 11-09-2007 03:39 PM

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Well neither of them are "solutions" in that they won't do anything towards achieving their stated goals. Though they will spectacularly achieve their unstated goals so I guess you could call them solutions of a sort.

shawny boy 11-09-2007 03:41 PM

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What if they're both bad? Then neither is "better", there's just "least bad".

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OMFG, what is wrong with you people? Which is better and why. If you think they both suck then the better one would suck less. It is really not all that complicated.


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