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AMT 03-04-2007 04:40 PM

Would it matter if.....
 
you were sitting in a 3 handed live cash game with 5,000 in front of each of the 3 of you. You are a regular and are deep rolled for 25/50nl. both of your opponents are reasonably knowledgeable about the game, however one of them is deep rolled and has a lot of money, and in conversation you learn that the other is playing with the last 5,000 to his name after a terrible run at 25/50. would you care who you stacked? would it matter to you in any way? would you say something? would you get up?

losingdonkey 03-04-2007 04:48 PM

Re: Would it matter if.....
 
Of course not

PantsOnFire 03-04-2007 05:03 PM

Re: Would it matter if.....
 
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Of course not

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This statement would apply to where I get my winnings. Long ago I decided that every poker player that laid cash on a poker table was an equal target regardless of his personal situaton. This includes my mother, a homeless man or Bill Gates.

I would however take into account the guy who has his entire bankroll on the table. He may play differently because of that and I would try to find ways to exploit this.

dopp16 03-04-2007 05:07 PM

Re: Would it matter if.....
 
It isnt your fault that he is an idiot. It would probably be a good thing for him to go broke, maybe he'd learn a valuable lesson

johnnyrocket 03-04-2007 10:02 PM

Re: Would it matter if.....
 
obviously dont care, dont sit if u dont want to stack players or play ur best, he=idiot if he didnt move down in stakes and is sitting at a table with his full roll. STACK HIM.

Bigka79 03-05-2007 03:25 PM

Re: Would it matter if.....
 
ill stack either of them gladly

Freelancer 03-05-2007 03:31 PM

Re: Would it matter if.....
 
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Of course not

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This statement would apply to where I get my winnings. Long ago I decided that every poker player that laid cash on a poker table was an equal target regardless of his personal situaton. This includes my mother, a homeless man or Bill Gates.

I would however take into account the guy who has his entire bankroll on the table. He may play differently because of that and I would try to find ways to exploit this.

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WhoIam 03-05-2007 06:31 PM

Re: Would it matter if.....
 
I'd prefer to get my money from the properly-rolled guy, but I'm not going to alter my play against the other guy at all. If the $5k guy was a friend or good acquaintance of mine, I might suggest he drop down or call it a night.

We all like to pretend that our opponents are playing either for fun or with money they can afford to lose, but we know this often isn't the case. At one of the few live games I went to in Pittsburgh, there's an incident that stood out. There was a middle-aged guy at the table who had obviously just blown most of his paycheck on the game. He casually checked his watch and said, "I was supposed to pick my daughter up ten minutes ago," then posted blinds for the next orbit. I found this disturbing, but it didn't stop me from checkraising him in order to add an extra bet to my stack.

KurtSF 03-05-2007 09:19 PM

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If the $5k guy was a friend or good acquaintance of mine, I might suggest he drop down or call it a night.

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I think I'd suggest this anyway, even if he weren't a friend.

But I'll gladly take his stack if he's sitting at the table.

dankhank 03-05-2007 11:53 PM

Re: Would it matter if.....
 
by implication the properly rolled guy is the better player. i always prefer to win money from stronger players, since i am less likely to get parts of their roll in the future.

losingdonkey 03-06-2007 01:41 AM

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If the $5k guy was a friend or good acquaintance of mine, I might suggest he drop down or call it a night.

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I think I'd suggest this anyway, even if he weren't a friend.



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I wouldn't, not even if it was my own grandmother, why don't you like money?

HOWMANY 03-06-2007 03:02 AM

Re: Would it matter if.....
 
Yeah it would matter. I'd keep going after the 5k guy and take small pot after small pot from him as a result of his being scared of losing it all on one hand.

omaha 03-06-2007 07:45 AM

Re: Would it matter if.....
 
No it wouldnt matter , i would personally be quite happy if i was to stack both of them

dopp16 03-06-2007 09:27 AM

Re: Would it matter if.....
 
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by implication the properly rolled guy is the better player.

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I am not sure how true this is. You would think a player like this perhaps has more discipline and is in fact not playing with scared money and can focus on making sound decisions. There are many more variables, however, that would translate to who the better player is.

Hoi Polloi 03-06-2007 02:11 PM

Re: Would it matter if.....
 
You have to be cruel to be kind. Consider stacking them both.

BenzeneBird 03-06-2007 03:19 PM

Re: Would it matter if.....
 
wow, what a bunch of c***s you all are.

...yeah, but assuming i was a winning 25/50 player i would do my best to relieve him of his money.

dkoleary 03-07-2007 10:40 AM

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by implication the properly rolled guy is the better player.

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I am not sure how true this is. You would think a player like this perhaps has more discipline and is in fact not playing with scared money and can focus on making sound decisions. There are many more variables, however, that would translate to who the better player is.

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I honestly don't think (most of the time) the guy playing with the last of his roll on the table is the better player.. I dunno, show me your reasoning so I can understand where you are coming from.

dopp16 03-07-2007 02:28 PM

Re: Would it matter if.....
 
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by implication the properly rolled guy is the better player.

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I am not sure how true this is. You would think a player like this perhaps has more discipline and is in fact not playing with scared money and can focus on making sound decisions. There are many more variables, however, that would translate to who the better player is.

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I honestly don't think (most of the time) the guy playing with the last of his roll on the table is the better player.. I dunno, show me your reasoning so I can understand where you are coming from.

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I am not saying that he is a better player. I am not saying that he is the worst player either. The post I was responding to indicated that the fact that he was short rolled meant that he was a worse player...for which I disagree with.

dkoleary 03-07-2007 07:25 PM

Re: Would it matter if.....
 
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by implication the properly rolled guy is the better player.

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I am not sure how true this is. You would think a player like this perhaps has more discipline and is in fact not playing with scared money and can focus on making sound decisions. There are many more variables, however, that would translate to who the better player is.

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I honestly don't think (most of the time) the guy playing with the last of his roll on the table is the better player.. I dunno, show me your reasoning so I can understand where you are coming from.

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I am not saying that he is a better player. I am not saying that he is the worst player either. The post I was responding to indicated that the fact that he was short rolled meant that he was a worse player...for which I disagree with.

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Well assuming that experience = skill/understanding/knowledge of playing poker. And that through experience, a player would know not to be underrolled. I deduced that, if we knew nothing else of the two players except for the fact that one was playing with his roll on the table and the other was deeply rolled, it is most likely that the one with his roll on the table has less experience hence less skill/understanding/knowledge of playing poker, hence he is a worse player than the other.

You haven't really explained yourself when you stated:
"the fact that he was short rolled meant that he was a worse player...for which I disagree with."

Fitz 03-08-2007 12:31 AM

Re: Would it matter if.....
 
Poker is by nature a predatory game; the strong feed on the weak. That being said, I would not play, and I'd try to talk to the guy. Somebody in that condition is practically giving his money away; unless he catches lightning in a bottle a few times, he is going to get busted. I'd rather not be the one who busts him.

The big question is what would the third guy do? You can step out of the game and leave the short stack heads up with a shark. Now I'll read the rest of thread and see how many of my fellow 2+2ers have kind hearts... lol.

Fitz


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