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AlexB182 11-06-2007 03:34 PM

NL100: QQ UTG. Am I playing like a mega nit here?
 
Both villains are pretty new at the table, MP1 is 33/22/1.4 over only 10 hands, so no use in that.
BTN is 22/9/1 over also only few hands, 50 so far.
I'm running 14/8 so far, pretty tight that means.
Reason I'm concerned here is first BTN pretty raise. It's not like really big but bigger than the usual PF 3bet has been so far at this table. 2nd problem: with the raise meaning more than one half of MP1's stack, I thought it was very likely MP1 would come over the top when he likes his hand. That means if I just call he would reopen the betting and BTN could come over the top all in and I'm really not sure if I want to play for stacks here. Only other possibility for me would've been pushing, right? Still, I really don't like shoving PF with QQ against virtually unknowns. Allright, sorry for the kind of long introduction, all comments greatly appreciated...


Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

MP2: $150.25
CO: $22.65
BTN: $89.40
SB: $99
BB: $130
Hero (UTG): $216.55
UTG+1: $17
MP1: $34.15

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $4, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $17.50</font>, Hero?

br.bm 11-06-2007 04:13 PM

Re: NL100: QQ UTG. Am I playing like a mega nit here?
 
I play NL100 FR at tilt too ... I like your fold.

PS: whats your screenname there?

AlexB182 11-06-2007 04:20 PM

Re: NL100: QQ UTG. Am I playing like a mega nit here?
 
Same as here. What's yours? PM me if you don't want to make it public...

ranka 11-06-2007 04:52 PM

Re: NL100: QQ UTG. Am I playing like a mega nit here?
 
As you already said: "Still, I really don't like shoving PF with QQ against virtually unknowns." And I agreed it - I would fold and if you are mega nit, then I am too!

SABR42 11-06-2007 04:53 PM

Re: NL100: QQ UTG. Am I playing like a mega nit here?
 
I don't like shoving, but I'd probably call.

AlexB182 11-06-2007 04:55 PM

Re: NL100: QQ UTG. Am I playing like a mega nit here?
 
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I don't like shoving, but I'd probably call.

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What about SS in MP3 who might shove here cause he gets great odds? Do you commit on a non A,K flop? Or only proceed when we hit?

ranka 11-06-2007 05:12 PM

Re: NL100: QQ UTG. Am I playing like a mega nit here?
 
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I don't like shoving, but I'd probably call.

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May I ask what is your flop plan?

Kos13 11-06-2007 05:51 PM

Re: NL100: QQ UTG. Am I playing like a mega nit here?
 
Not a fan of folding here because the 3bettor's range is much wider than AA/KK. Call.

SABR42 11-06-2007 06:22 PM

Re: NL100: QQ UTG. Am I playing like a mega nit here?
 
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I don't like shoving, but I'd probably call.

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May I ask what is your flop plan?

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Stack off on low flops or any flop with a Q obviously.

chrismystero 11-06-2007 09:16 PM

Re: NL100: QQ UTG. Am I playing like a mega nit here?
 
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I don't like shoving, but I'd probably call.

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May I ask what is your flop plan?

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Stack off on low flops or any flop with a Q obviously.

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Hmmm...if you think Villain has a range wider than KK-AA
(which I'm not disagreeing with) I am kind of interested into a more in-depth analysis of a flop plan if you just call.

Sure, we can get away from a A or K flop, but given that we think his range is wider, (let's say, TT-AA, AK), how are we playing a J T x flop? Or a J x x flop? I run into this situation a lot and am kind of interested as to how the people that vote call play different flop textures.


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