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Instatilt 07-13-2007 09:41 AM

FD and GS vs 2 players
 
Just started playing PLO, no clue what I am doing to be honest. No read on villains other than they play PLO 50....can't really say what range they have here but don't expect to see a set from both whith such a low board? Also straights are 46 and A4, seems like kind of weak hands preflop? If both have set they draw to the same outs more or less. Maybe very wrong thou. Is calling flop > raising flop? Folding > calling? Appreciate comments on all streets.

- nutteboy sitting in seat 1 with $51.78
- irishbxl sitting in seat 2 with $42.84
- Dul sitting in seat 3 with $59.34
- skkbyers sitting in seat 4 with $49.75
- Kidstockholm sitting in seat 5 with $101.97
- SiljeElise sitting in seat 6 with $28.50 [Dealer]

nutteboy posted the small blind - $0.25
irishbxl posted the big blind - $0.50
** Dealing card to Kidstockholm: 9 of Clubs, 10 of Clubs, 5 of Hearts, Ace of Clubs
Dul raised - $1.75
skkbyers called - $1.75
Kidstockholm called - $1.75
SiljeElise called - $1.75
nutteboy folded
irishbxl called - $1.75

** Dealing the flop: 5 of Clubs, 3 of Clubs, 2 of Diamonds
irishbxl checked
Dul bet - $7.50
skkbyers raised - $31.50
Kidstockholm went all-in - $100.22
SiljeElise folded
irishbxl folded
Dul went all-in - $50.09
skkbyers went all-in - $16.50

** Dealing the turn: 2 of Clubs

** Dealing the river: 6 of Spades

CrushinFelt 07-13-2007 11:17 AM

Re: FD and GS vs 2 players
 
No reason for the raise. Call is fine but not great.

TrainHardDieHard 07-13-2007 01:06 PM

Re: FD and GS vs 2 players
 
You're lucky Dul bet called here. You NEED at least 3 players in the pot to justify your equity for this play here. Even so, the extra club in your hand makes you only 29% (using pure outs). This is -EV IMO if someone has a set.

I would favor a cold call over a raise here because it would give Dul bet odds to call on a lot of hands.

Ribbo 07-13-2007 01:10 PM

Re: FD and GS vs 2 players
 
A flush draw, especially with 3 of the same suit in hand, is not the nuts. Don't play it like it is.

Instatilt 07-13-2007 01:30 PM

Re: FD and GS vs 2 players
 


Ok, villains ranges and alt. line then?

plz

Ribbo 07-13-2007 01:35 PM

Re: FD and GS vs 2 players
 
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Ok, villains ranges and alt. line then?

plz

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All of his range heads up beats you. It's only KK with a king high flush draw that gives you reasonable equity.
Folding is fine in this spot, especially since there is a straight flush draw potentially which would take a further 3 outs away from you.
You fold because there is no guarantee the final pot will be three way, heads up it's an instant fold given the action.

Instatilt 07-13-2007 04:41 PM

Re: FD and GS vs 2 players
 
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Ok, villains ranges and alt. line then?

plz

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All of his range heads up beats you. It's only KK with a king high flush draw that gives you reasonable equity.
Folding is fine in this spot, especially since there is a straight flush draw potentially which would take a further 3 outs away from you.
You fold because there is no guarantee the final pot will be three way, heads up it's an instant fold given the action.

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ok, thanks, appreciate it.

oneouterson 07-13-2007 04:53 PM

Re: FD and GS vs 2 players
 
I'd fold this preflop. And probably fold the flop with these stack sizes.


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