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DCal Zone 10-29-2007 02:22 AM

3/6 hand vs. booshiet (not telling you my cards yet!)
 
booshiet plays 21/19. He is very bluffy and likes to make plays, but stays somewhat under control and seems to put at least a little thought into his bluffs. I'm pretty sure he respects my game and considers me a good regular. I have stacked him a lot of times, but have also been caught be him on a couple semi-bluffs.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($466.70)
CO ($2974.45)
Button ($1205)
Hero ($1123)
BB ($609)
UTG ($538.05)

Preflop:
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $21</font>, Hero calls $18, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($48) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $39.6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $114</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $297</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1102</font>




1. What is the worst hand you would 4bet shove here.
2. What is range of hands that you expect booshiet to 3bet the flop here (and what % is is just air).
3. What hands do you expect him to call the all-in with.

Isura 10-29-2007 02:26 AM

Re: 3/6 hand vs. booshiet (not telling you my cards yet!)
 
1. QJ
2. sets/overpair/overcards/gutshots!
3. AT+

nuggetz87 10-29-2007 02:31 AM

Re: 3/6 hand vs. booshiet (not telling you my cards yet!)
 
well i think he's bluffing a pretty large amount of the time given board texture and raise size.

if he 3bet it knowing you'd bluff shove that's pretty sick but good i guess. i don't really know what your allin range is here...could be your entire flop c/r range because you think he'd only 3bet as a bluff (described him as bluffy).


edit:
1. if u think enough of his range is bluffs i guess yo could shove anything
2. depends on how crazy you guys are together. could be set/air, could be TP+/air
3. any non-air he 3bet with

jlocdog 10-29-2007 02:40 AM

Re: 3/6 hand vs. booshiet (not telling you my cards yet!)
 
Isura- If you expect him to call an all in with AT (which I agree with) then how can you justify 4betting with as light as QJ here? This flop is so dry, that our 4bet shove would seem to look quite bluffy/nutty with much more weight on the bluffy aspect which may attract an even lighter lookup.

FWIW I think OP's range given preflop call is PP's of 77+ and then some random SC's and suited broadways/Aces. Since you open yourself up to being squeezed quite often here and you probably know this, I would put more stock in AA/KK looking to get squeezed or atleast diguise your hand for this bluffy guy who is good for a c-bet almost always and will probably overplay his hand against you given that he has position and you are deep.

catcher193 10-29-2007 05:37 AM

Re: 3/6 hand vs. booshiet (not telling you my cards yet!)
 
(in your shoes with what I know about both of you)

1. AT
2. overs, gutters, sets, 2pair+
3. anything he 3 bet for valuewith (all except gutters/overs)

jfish 10-29-2007 05:43 AM

Re: 3/6 hand vs. booshiet (not telling you my cards yet!)
 
1.) uh J3s? what kind of question is that?
2.) KT+ if he is aggro and good and you have been cring frequently. JJ+ if you havent been too aggro, bluffs/sets if he is weak.
3.) anything he 3bet for value with. this could be T9 if he is sick and the game is very aggro, or it could be a set.

i try not to do this play vs people who raise donks wide for value here (as a bluff). but if he has a narrow vbetting range, implying that his bluff range simply cannot be very wide (if you have lots of history), then it is just simple to outplay him by 4betting a fair amount of bluffs here.

T.Arnold 10-29-2007 05:49 AM

Re: 3/6 hand vs. booshiet (not telling you my cards yet!)
 
Im so glad you guys are all donkeys!

ArdyJay 10-29-2007 06:10 AM

Re: 3/6 hand vs. booshiet (not telling you my cards yet!)
 
can you give your answers?

wdead 10-29-2007 06:23 AM

Re: 3/6 hand vs. booshiet (not telling you my cards yet!)
 
i think its fairly obvious you are FOS


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