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hennnerz 09-04-2007 02:54 PM

I got a big draw, but facing AI...Standard call? NL50
 
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $49.70
CO: $60.55
Hero: $49.50
SB: $24.05
BB: $50.60

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($12.75, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $54.55</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $33.5</font>.
Uncalled bets: $11.05 returned to CO.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($99.75, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $99.75)


River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($99.75, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $99.75)


Results:
Final pot: $99.75

Total unknown villain btw.

whyzze 09-04-2007 02:57 PM

Re: I got a big draw, but facing AI...Standard call? NL50
 
yep..standard

knght311 09-04-2007 02:58 PM

Re: I got a big draw, but facing AI...Standard call? NL50
 
I don't think the draw is too big...you have 13 outs the way I see it, action on his part makes it seem like a naked A won't help.

I toss to the all in. the odds the pot is laying you to call is 44.55/66.55 or 66%, you are no where near a 66% fav here.

checktheriver 09-04-2007 02:59 PM

Re: I got a big draw, but facing AI...Standard call? NL50
 
instacall. Worst case you're up against a set and you still have 33% equity. What are you reasons for 3betting preflop ?

whyzze 09-04-2007 03:02 PM

Re: I got a big draw, but facing AI...Standard call? NL50
 
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I don't think the draw is too big...you have 13 outs the way I see it, action on his part makes it seem like a naked A won't help.

I toss to the all in. the odds the pot is laying you to call is 44.55/66.55 or 66%, you are no where near a 66% fav here.

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you got your odds backwards...assuming 12 outs...maybe 11. he is a about 45% to win. he only needs 33% to call.

hennnerz 09-04-2007 03:03 PM

Re: I got a big draw, but facing AI...Standard call? NL50
 
Just that I have position, preferred raising to calling and folding.

knght311 09-04-2007 03:06 PM

Re: I got a big draw, but facing AI...Standard call? NL50
 
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I don't think the draw is too big...you have 13 outs the way I see it, action on his part makes it seem like a naked A won't help.

I toss to the all in. the odds the pot is laying you to call is 44.55/66.55 or 66%, you are no where near a 66% fav here.

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you got your odds backwards...assuming 12 outs...maybe 11. he is a about 45% to win. he only needs 33% to call.

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I know that...and at the moment, he is calling off 44 dollars to win 66. he is calling off 66% of the pot when he is only a 45% at best.

whyzze 09-04-2007 03:10 PM

Re: I got a big draw, but facing AI...Standard call? NL50
 
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I don't think the draw is too big...you have 13 outs the way I see it, action on his part makes it seem like a naked A won't help.

I toss to the all in. the odds the pot is laying you to call is 44.55/66.55 or 66%, you are no where near a 66% fav here.

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you got your odds backwards...assuming 12 outs...maybe 11. he is a about 45% to win. he only needs 33% to call.

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I know that...and at the moment, he is calling off 44 dollars to win 66. he is calling off 66% of the pot when he is only a 45% at best.

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lol..my math is a little off...but so is yours. I am too lazy to do it right but he is getting correct odds.

knght311 09-04-2007 03:13 PM

Re: I got a big draw, but facing AI...Standard call? NL50
 
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I don't think the draw is too big...you have 13 outs the way I see it, action on his part makes it seem like a naked A won't help.

I toss to the all in. the odds the pot is laying you to call is 44.55/66.55 or 66%, you are no where near a 66% fav here.

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you got your odds backwards...assuming 12 outs...maybe 11. he is a about 45% to win. he only needs 33% to call.

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I know that...and at the moment, he is calling off 44 dollars to win 66. he is calling off 66% of the pot when he is only a 45% at best.

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lol..my math is a little off...but so is yours. I am too lazy to do it right but he is getting correct odds.

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yes mine is a little off...but I don't think he is getting odds...ok, so at best I give him a 45% chance of winning the pot. Now I will do a bet by bet rundown of pot size.

6 each PF = 12
Hero bets 10 = 22
Villain raises to 54, pot is 76.
to call he has to invest 44.
44/76 = 58%
again, at best he is a 45% fav.

he is not getting odds to call the all in...but whats 13% in the long run....meh.

whyzze 09-04-2007 03:15 PM

Re: I got a big draw, but facing AI...Standard call? NL50
 
its 33 into 56


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