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Bonafone 10-22-2007 11:50 PM

QQ hand in FT $1k
 
Hey,

Just curious about a couple things from this hand. What do you think about flatting this utg shove? If you don't flat are you shoving? raising less than all in?

Then what about the flop fold? bad, good? He fired flop very very fast if that changes anything.

If you're not folding, what are you doing?
Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t120 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG (t1185)
UTG+1 (t4243)
MP1 (t4650)
Hero (t4610)
MP3 (t2999)
CO (t3865)
Button (t4282)
SB (t4815)
BB (t5215)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t1185 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t1185, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls t1125, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t3675) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t1560</font>, Hero folds.

Bond18 10-23-2007 01:13 AM

Re: QQ hand in FT $1k
 
Flop fold looks fine.

In the tilt 1k i don't think anyone is fooled when you flat call a raise of this size for 25% of your stack. I think reshoving pre to iso actually looks weaker and gets you more calls.

zizazziza 10-23-2007 01:17 AM

Re: QQ hand in FT $1k
 
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Flop fold looks fine.

In the tilt 1k i don't think anyone is fooled when you flat call a raise of this size for 25% of your stack. I think reshoving pre to iso actually looks weaker and gets you more calls.

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pokeriseasy 10-23-2007 01:31 AM

Re: QQ hand in FT $1k
 
I'd rather reshove preflop. Was the intent of the call to get somebody to reshove light? Flop is tough and I'd probably fold, but I so often see this weak bet and it's not a K it's a some pair trying to rep the K hoping the shortstack pusher has A hi. So let me change my response to I think shoving over the top is the best play.

Rock3656 10-24-2007 05:42 AM

Re: QQ hand in FT $1k
 
I like a reshove pre for a few reasons: if you flat call pre, someone may overshove with AK, when they might be folding if you reshove. Flat calling preflop may allow someone to get away with JJ, when they may call a shove from you. You're going to call a reshove anywayz I assume, so your going broke to KK or AA eitherway.

MrTimCaum 10-24-2007 05:54 AM

Re: QQ hand in FT $1k
 
I agree with everyone else here, I like a reshove because it definitely looks weaker than flat calling.

Requin 10-24-2007 10:12 AM

Re: QQ hand in FT $1k
 
I play it the same

JLiQ 10-24-2007 01:12 PM

Re: QQ hand in FT $1k
 
get it all in pre

mappedout 10-26-2007 03:31 PM

Re: QQ hand in FT $1k
 
I shove it PF here, mainly because of what pokeriseasy says, when that overcard comes out and TT weak bets what do you do? Fold... I'd rather get it in pre and hope she holds. As played i fold the flop...

Inyaface 10-28-2007 04:23 AM

Re: QQ hand in FT $1k
 
I'm a trap call box pf but even I shove here


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