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I have a ton of things to say about the offseason preseason and season. I am not happy. But I do think this is the best link ever, and IndieFattyMattySuspect was giving me [censored] about not having a thread. I want to beat New England twice. Badly.

Stud.

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I love the Jets, but Football is prolly the sport i am least informed in. What happened in the off season that you did not like?

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I love the Jets, but Football is prolly the sport i am least informed in. What happened in the off season that you did not like?

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1. Revis isn't signed/in camp.
2. Kendall is being toyed with.
3. We have no O-line depth whatsoever.
4. We have no back-up QB.

Right now I'm mostly pissed about #1. I'm happy about other unlisted things (T Jones etc.) but, really, #1 is inexcusable. The combo of #1 and #2 shows me that the coach/GM might think a bit too much of themselves right now.

But, thinking better thoughts...

http://www.projo.com/a/2007/1/0124/jets.jpg

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Where to begin...

Training Camp Drama:
- Revis should have been signed and in camp at LEAST 5 days ago. Every practice he misses is trouble in the long run. I know that Tannenbaum is trying to sign this kid for 6 years so he doesn't have to deal with expiring contracts on both DBrick and Revis in the same year, but it's about time the FO moved off their stance on this one.
- Kendall needs to be let go. There is no point in keeping this guy around. He isn't going to be on the team for week 1, so what's the point? Trade him for a 7th round pick or just let him go out-right at this point. I also don't understand what the hold up is on this one.

Secondary:
This isn't looking as good as it once was all of a sudden. With Revis holding out, Barrett still on the team, Miller banged up and now Eric Smith out (with what appears to be a serious knee injury in today's morning workout) the depth at these positions is looking tremendously weak. Kerry Rhodes is going to have to be even better this year than he was last year methinks.

Linebackers: I liked trading up for Harris. Bryan Thomas needs to continue and improve if possible on his big season last year. Vilma will be fine. Hobson + Barton + Bowens makes this a much deeper unit than last years, especially if Schlegel can contribute this year.

D-Line: Meh. Robertson at NT again. Kimo will suck once again, hopefully we see lots more of Coleman than Kimo. Ellis will be fine. Pouha could help, but really these guys don't do anything for me.

Chad Pennington: [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Clemens as a #2 makes me a bit nervous as he is probably still another year away. Touiuopuoiuoouiuoiuoipo as #3, standard.

Running Back: Stealing Thomas Jones from the Bears was big. Leon Washington should make for a nice 1-2 combo here. Can the O-Line open up some holes this year though? Houston quitting football was strange. The 3rd man on the Totem Pole now is Alvin Banks and un-drafted rookie from my alma matre, James Madison University. Banks is quick, but like many FCS players there are certainly question marks about his size.

Full Back: Barnes & Tutt. I wouldn't say it's an upgrade from last year, but it's not a downgrade.

Tight End: Chris Baker...yawn. Sean Ryan...are you kidding me. Blah.

Wide Receivers: Me likey these guys. Coles, Cotchery, JMac, Smith, Stuckey. Not too shabby.

O-Line: Kendall and his big masshole attitude and mouth are trouble. The Jets just need to be rid of him and move on. DBrick and Mangold need to progress further. The right side of the line is what it is. Moore + Clement. Nothing to see there. Adrian Clarke at left guard? Wade Smith? Bender? I don't know what to say here other then....AAAAAAHHHH!

Special Teams: This is going to be fine. Graham is a good punter. Nugent progressed well last year. Miller + Revis + Washington returning kicks. The team will be fine here.

Schedule: It's tough this year, way tougher than last year. Maybe some Mangini magic can get us back to the playoffs, but I'm not holding my breath. 8-8 would make me happy.

The offensive line is going to make or break this team. Once Kendall is gone there won't be much there, that means DBrick and Mangold might need to turn into OL superstars in a matter of 1 season. Yikes...

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I think the Jets will take a step back this year. Last year the team over achieved.

I predicted a 4-12 season last season.

The Jets have leaks in many areas.

I would feel happy with a 9-7 record, no way they beat the Patriots twice..just no way. Speaking of New England, why do we have to start the season against New England?? It gets tougher the next week in Baltimore against the Ravens.

I like that we have the bye in the middle of the season.

Im looking forward to the last game of the season against the Chiefs. I want to bury that team...because even if the Chiefs arent in the playoff picture the team will still play hard because..they play to win the game.



The Dolphins worry me a little this year.

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So we agree on Revis and Kendall and we're both worried about the secondary.

Where I disagree:

DRob will be awesome. Schlegel will be cut. C Baker's supposedly been good in camp, and while its said every year I think given our outside threats are NASTY, the inside should present some opportunities.

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Brett,

I hope DRob will be awesome. I think that a healthy Pouha should help DRob tremendously. Last year we really didn't have anyone capable of spelling him. Maybe Pouha+Mosely can be those guys this year? I dunno. We'll see.

I hope you are right about Baker, but yeah we hear the same thing every TC about how good he is going to be and he winds up just being an average TE. Maybe in year 2 of this Brian Schotty offense we can see a break out at this position.

You think Schlegel will be cut? I haven't read much about him during this TC.....isn't Chatham out for a while? I know he is on the PUP list right now. If Chatham is out for a while I can't see them cutting the inexpensive Schlegel.

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I hope you are right about Baker, but yeah we hear the same thing every TC about how good he is going to be and he winds up just being an average TE. Maybe in year 2 of this Brian Schotty offense we can see a break out at this position...

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If the Jets focus more with the running game with the Thomas/Washington combo, this may result in smaller role for Baker.

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If the Jets focus more with the running game with the Thomas/Washington combo, this may result in smaller role for Baker.

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Well Baker's role certainly can't get much smaller...they only threw the ball in his direction on average 4 times a game last year.

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I didn't see this thread but I love seeing it.

Anyway, I hate Revis being out of camp, but I like that the FO is not stepping down on their demands (although 6 years isn't really fair to Revis, but that's a different issue).

Apparently Darian Barnes has been a monster in camp and I'm looking forward to him crushing people.

Clemens led a 95 yard TD drive in practice, yes it's only practice but it's the only good thing I've heard about Clemens in 2 years so give me a break. I don't think he is our QB of the future, but it's too early to tell.
I also don't think we can win a SB with Chad, but I'm liking how our defense is shaping up.

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but I like that the FO is not stepping down on their demands (although 6 years isn't really fair to Revis, but that's a different issue).


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He's not a top 5 pick. He's the 14th pick. Just get him into camp. PLaying hardball is for teams who can afford it. We need help.

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agreed, brother, agreed.

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I don't think he is our QB of the future, but it's too early to tell.

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Way too early. Chad sucked for 3 years in preseason/slop time too.

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I also don't think we can win a SB with Chad, but I'm liking how our defense is shaping up.

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Chad can do anything.

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i predict 16-0.

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I like what I see from Alvin Banks, did the Jets cut Hollings yet? Banks is different from Leon and TJ, so I would think that he would be the 3rd man, since Cedric has quit.
D-Line will probably start as D-Rob, Ellis and Kenyon, but I really hate D-Rob as the nose. He's a talented DT but we need to get rid of him and his contract, he's not right for the system and his strengths aren't properly utilized. That said, I'd rather have him there over Pouha or whoever.
I like the O-Line, but I hate Clement, he really needs to go.
LB's are fine, but maybe after this year we can get something REALLY nice for Jon Vilma. Some of you may hate the idea of trading Vilma but his impact on the game is a lot less in the 3-4. When Donnie was our DC and ran the Tampa cover 2 he was amazing, but our LB corps is way too deep so I would think he is somewhat expendable.
Secondary is standard Jets, will probably get burned again this year. Miller is terrible, and I hope he doesn't start. Barrett is clueless out there too, but Dyson plays pretty well. <3333 Kerry Rhodes. Hopefully Revis can get to camp soon.
No problems with WR's, Penny and Coles have a good rapport and Cotch has been amazing. Word is that J-Mac looks good too, and Smith brings a new element to our offense, and reports say he might be our #2 QB this year lol.

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Degen,

I think the O-Line is a big problem for us this season. Clement shouldn't be a worry at all, IMO. Kendall will either be cut or traded before week 1. That means we are going to go with a completely untested 3rd year player at LG, Adrian Clarke.

So at tackle we will have: DBrick, Clement, Jones, Bender.
At center we will have: Mangold, Wade Smith.
At guard we will have: Moore, Clarke, ?.

There is no depth at guard at all. Not to mention both of our starting guards probably aren't even starting caliber.

I'm scared right now of our O-Line.

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Most of your comments about Vilma DRob etc are last year type comments. Thing is, these guys have had more time in the system and let's see how they respond/play. Sure they haven't yet fit the system. But give them time....

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Ya, sadly moving up to nab Revis and Harris cost us filling out our oline depth in the draft. Sucks. I do like gambling on guys we thought would fit/start. Our line seems to be the price.

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Most of your comments about Vilma DRob etc are last year type comments. Thing is, these guys have had more time in the system and let's see how they respond/play. Sure they haven't yet fit the system. But give them time....

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Fair enough, but we as Jets fans know the strengths of these players.
Vilma is at his best when he can roam around and run sideline-to-sideline. In the 3-4 he is generally confined to one space and has to take on O-Lineman. And at 230 lbs, he pretty much has no shot.
D-Rob is quick, and if he plays anything in the 3-4 it should be DE. We need a fatass run stuffer like a Jamal Williams to play the nose, and D-Rob is not that.

As far as the O-Line, if Kendall is gone, Mangold will be the only one I trust on the line, and that is terrible. However reports out of camp say that Adrien Clarke has been looking good. I think Brick got abused by every RE in the league last year.

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happy to see this thread kicked off...i wanna say the jets will take a step forward this year, but with that schedule and the negative vibes already, i'm not too optimistic...

wth are they doing with kendall already?? he gets paid like garbage and i don't even know if he's looking for a long term thing, just wants to be compensated a bit...while i would say the jets might have a point, the fact that revis is also holding out says something about management...

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The fact that Kendall is still on the team, has taken reps with the first unit now and then, just makes me feel like they want to keep kendall around. He didnt start the preseason game today but was in there on the 2nd series. Every day that he doesnt get cut i feel more and more like hes staying.

And also wtf with 12 straight runs in the preseason game? I wanted to see pennington throw a few at least. what a tease

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^^what's this talk about him getting cut?? no way do the jets ever think of that imo

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Kellen Clemens FTW!!! Ship it

Goodbye Alvin Banks and Andre Wadsworth

Chansi Stuckey
 

Any of you guys get a really good feel about this player?
Perhaps not this season, however I have a feeling he will become a solid player in the league.

Discuss.....

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Ian Eagle and Greg Buttles discussed Kendall's situation during the televised game. They discussed the possibility of the Jets cutting him due to cap issues. Even though he played with the first team, he did not get listed as a starter.

Jets RB Jones limps off field after injuring leg
 

full story

Preseason game #1...thoughts
 

Anyone care to share their thoughts on the game?
Excited to see Clemens open it up.

The offensive line needs time to gel so Pennington handing off 11 times and not attemping a pass makes sense.

Chansi Stuckey play impressed me.

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Kellen Clemens FTW!!! Ship it

Goodbye Alvin Banks and Andre Wadsworth

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Why goodbye Alvin Banks? I went to JMU and watched Alvin Banks for nearly his entire career. The kid is good and fast, if he can stay injury free.

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Kellen Clemens jersey coming my way.

How much are cheap nosebleed jets tickets usually going for?

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btw when i sent went to jmu, i still go there haha

banks should be good stuff if you hold onto him and he stays injury free

whitebread, have you been back recently? should be an interesting year for the team

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Why goodbye Alvin Banks? I went to JMU and watched Alvin Banks for nearly his entire career. The kid is good and fast, if he can stay injury free.

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Because Danny Ware is the sh.it
Anyway I do like Banks, I hope he can step it up next game

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whats all the fuss about this alvin banks anyway, the jets are pretty set with jones and washington, if anything id be annoyed for them to lose touches to a 3rd rb

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No. I'm so lame, I graduated in '02 and live in NoVa and I haven't been to a football game there in 2 years. Haha. I think the last game I saw was in 2005 against Villanova.

Anytime they have been on CN8 (or on ESPN in the playoffs) I will watch the game at whatever bar the Metrodukes pick or with some fellow JMU Alum's (Tyler Durden, Mantooth, etc). Definitely trying to get down there for Homecoming this year.

And yeah, this should be an interesting year. No Rascati, only 11? returning starters...

I'm digging this new CAA TV schedule though.

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whats all the fuss about this alvin banks anyway, the jets are pretty set with jones and washington, if anything id be annoyed for them to lose touches to a 3rd rb

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Well the fuss is that he went to a few posters here college. Being an Division I-FCS school we generally don't get to see alot of our football players go on to the NFL. So when they have a chance to make a roster we root for them pretty hard.

Anyway, having depth at running back is important. Running backs get injured (hell Thomas Jones got injured yesterday in practice). Having a decent 3rd running back option is a good idea. Even if Banks makes the team I highly doubt he steals carries from TJ or Leon.

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hey, wh1t, didn't know u lived in the DC area...know any good spots to watch jets games?? i'm still fairly new to the area and haven't found any good bars/spots for the jets??

3rd back is always nice to have to have, especially since a 2 back system is getting fairly standard these days...

wth, get revis in camp already damnit, this team needs all the help it can get in the beginning of the season...

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white, if you guys make it down to JMU for homecoming let me know

we'll get a home game going or something

i know you play nose bleed stakes (right? or do i have you confused with someone else? haha), but it might be fun to play a busto-stakes game with college kids ;-)

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We should def go back to JMU for Homecoming this year. It's October 26-27.

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white, if you guys make it down to JMU for homecoming let me know

we'll get a home game going or something

i know you play nose bleed stakes (right? or do i have you confused with someone else? haha), but it might be fun to play a busto-stakes game with college kids ;-)

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Will do. I suck at poker. So I won't mind donating money to poor college kids.

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hey, wh1t, didn't know u lived in the DC area...know any good spots to watch jets games?? i'm still fairly new to the area and haven't found any good bars/spots for the jets??


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No. Haven't found a Jets bar. I've had Sunday Ticket the past couple of years so I've been watching games at home. I don't have DirecTV anymore though [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

If you find something let me know.

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Wes and I had a JMU student at our table at the Borgata last weekend, he said there's a good 1-2 NL game in South View. We should find it.

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Comments on Thomas Jones injury?

Also, Jets games are all sold out to season tickets, I just got nosebleed tickets to opening day for $200 a piece...but I used stars fpps for stubhub gift certificates so whatever.

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Wes and I had a JMU student at our table at the Borgata last weekend, he said there's a good 1-2 NL game in South View. We should find it.

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haha check your PMs about that game

im 99 % sure it isn't running anymore... there's more details in the PM