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g-p 11-08-2007 07:20 PM

simple preflop spot, never know on these
 
162 on stars, i have aggro image, other guys in hands are randoms

any help is appreciated


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2500 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t76110)
Button (t57430)
SB (t90167)
Hero (t84541)
UTG (t138631)
UTG+1 (t108469)
MP1 (t42865)
MP2 (t54250)
MP3 (t35187)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t7500</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls t6250, hero ?

g-p 11-08-2007 07:23 PM

Re: simple preflop spot, never know on these
 
forgot to add, i think there are like 25 left and we are ITM

zizazziza 11-08-2007 07:26 PM

Re: simple preflop spot, never know on these
 
fold.

:edit: I forgot you are allowed to call, i was thinking either push/fold. you can call as well b/c you have good enough implied odds v sb. against mp3, you dont.

brad2002tj 11-08-2007 07:28 PM

Re: simple preflop spot, never know on these
 
With the small blind's call the effective stack increases and also improve your odds. In this situation I would usually call for set value. You call would only be 1/5 of the present pot, plus the implied odds can make it profitable.

If small blind folds I usually fold or sometimes shove read dependant.

RobGW 11-08-2007 07:34 PM

Re: simple preflop spot, never know on these
 
With MP3' stack size, I doubt he is folding to a shove especially from you. So with him you are at best a coin flip, usually much worse. OTOH, if you call here, the pot will be huge and you'll get his stack if he has any type of hand and possible some of SB's money too.

listerx 11-08-2007 07:38 PM

Re: simple preflop spot, never know on these
 
I would call, if you flop a set yay! you get all his chips, if not then whatever you still have a ton of chips, just give up the hand if a 3 dosen't flop

Ansky 11-08-2007 07:59 PM

Re: simple preflop spot, never know on these
 
If u think there is a reasonable chance that sb is flatting w/ a big hand then u can call here.

AcTiOnJaCsOn 11-08-2007 08:24 PM

Re: simple preflop spot, never know on these
 
depends on the riginal raiser if hes really tight, ill call and try and flop a set, if hes pretty agro/loose im gunna wait for a better opprotunity than to play this out of position w/ that stack size. w/ no reads probably just fold but its sort of close, and the fact that u have an agro image means you wont be able to steal as many pots postflop, which makes me even more inclined to fold

psyduck 11-08-2007 08:28 PM

Re: simple preflop spot, never know on these
 
Due to your image I think flatting here is the best idea. If SB is a good reg he can easily be flatting with a huge hand so that makes calling with 33 even better. If they're both really random (so SB can have [censored] like 98s or whatever that he wants to see a flop with) shoving can't be bad either.

I think default is to call and shove sometimes depending on opener and caller + your image.

Ship Ship McGipp 11-08-2007 08:47 PM

Re: simple preflop spot, never know on these
 
call


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