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coolmoedee 08-29-2007 10:34 AM

IS THIS A GOOD SHOVE SPOT?
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed)

Hero UTG($216.05)
Button ($432.47)
SB ($189)
BB ($237.40)
MP ($200)
CO ($302)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with As, Qs.
Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, SB calls $7, BB folds.

Flop: ($18) Ks, 9s, 3d (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14, SB raises to $35, Hero raises all in for $216, SB calls all in.

I know when he calls im way behind but was it a good spot to push? Should I just have called? I'm not really sure how to play these spots. Thanks for any help provided.

cfb1739 08-29-2007 10:47 AM

Re: IS THIS A GOOD SHOVE SPOT?
 
Yep, it looks fine. Just make sure that you have the nut flush draw or a non-nut flush draw w/ non-flush outs when you are shoving all in. You don't want to stack off drawing dead to a better draw.

Also, when he calls you are NEVER way behind as long as you are drawing to the nuts.

Erudito 08-29-2007 10:47 AM

Re: IS THIS A GOOD SHOVE SPOT?
 
Hand 0: 54.202% 42.37% 11.84% 10066 2812.50 { 99, 33, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 45.798% 33.96% 11.84% 8069 2812.50 { AsQs }

Sorry about the mistake. I edited to fix the error.

cfb1739 08-29-2007 10:48 AM

Re: IS THIS A GOOD SHOVE SPOT?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 0: 95.010% 95.01% 00.00% 14109 0.00 { 99, 33, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 04.990% 04.99% 00.00% 741 0.00 { AdQs }

[/ QUOTE ]

looks like you need to make hand 1 AsQs?

Jay Riall 08-29-2007 10:49 AM

Re: IS THIS A GOOD SHOVE SPOT?
 
And not use such a ridiculous range for villain?

coolmoedee 08-29-2007 11:08 AM

Re: IS THIS A GOOD SHOVE SPOT?
 
He did have 99 and a K hit the turn...maybe next time [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

13_Xerxes 08-29-2007 11:18 AM

Re: IS THIS A GOOD SHOVE SPOT?
 
IP, I like to just call vs "normal villain" (cause he gives you great odds, and you have a BD str8 draw too). If he check-raised a lot of CB, that's a great spot to shove.

coolmoedee 08-29-2007 11:37 AM

Re: IS THIS A GOOD SHOVE SPOT?
 
He was check raising my CB bets so that made this play even more obvious to me.

scallop 08-29-2007 11:56 AM

Re: IS THIS A GOOD SHOVE SPOT?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Yep, it looks fine. Just make sure that you have the nut flush draw or a non-nut flush draw w/ non-flush outs when you are shoving all in. You don't want to stack off drawing dead to a better draw.

Also, when he calls you are NEVER way behind as long as you are drawing to the nuts.

[/ QUOTE ]

pepper123 08-29-2007 11:57 AM

Re: IS THIS A GOOD SHOVE SPOT?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 0: 54.202% 42.37% 11.84% 10066 2812.50 { 99, 33, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 45.798% 33.96% 11.84% 8069 2812.50 { AsQs }

Sorry about the mistake. I edited to fix the error.


[/ QUOTE ]

dunno why you have AQ in villains range but whatever this shove is fine


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