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cts 04-01-2006 05:36 PM

1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
I'm a limit player that's just starting to learn some no limit (playing shorthanded only), so this is my first post here. My turn play was really weak, and by the river even 78 got there. What do you do here on the turn?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO ($107.75)
Button ($98.50)
SB ($136.80)
BB ($102.20)
UTG ($216.56)
Hero ($218.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $4, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($15.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $16.

Turn: ($63.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $22</font>, UTG calls $22.

River: ($107.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $25</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $132.50

I'm also kinda curious on my stats, since they are completely different from limit (at which I've been playing from 10/20 to 30/60). I've only been playing the 6-max games and my stats over about 10k hands are

VPIP: 26.6
PFR: 16.9
WTSD: 20.89 (this stat has been falling as I've been getting better)
AF: 2.28 (total)

Are these in the right ballpark? Too tight/loose? Thanks for the feedback.

viper930 04-01-2006 05:41 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
For 6max you'll most likely level off at 30/20 or so. That said, your VPIP and PFR look fine. Is your AF total including preflop? If so, thats fine. If its just postflop you might wanna get that a little higher, but dont just concentrate on bumping stats, do what's natural.

As for the hand, I'd check behind on the turn and call a small bet on the river. A few reasons would be to keep the pot small because you only have a very mediocre hand, and to allow him to bluff on the river if he's got air. Gets you a cheap showdown.

cts 04-01-2006 05:46 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
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Is your AF total including preflop? If so, thats fine.


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My aggression factor is including preflop (which is 1.51). Checking the turn and calling a small bet sounds reasonable, I was trying to avoid giving a free card to a straight draw or if somehow he made it to the turn with clubs. Thanks for the response.

luckychewy 04-01-2006 05:55 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
Bet more on the turn, call river as played.

DirtDog 04-01-2006 07:11 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
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check behind turn, call river as played.

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iceman5 04-01-2006 07:27 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
First of all, youre playing .50/$1 NL ...not $1/$2 NL

Raising that much in these small stakes will get you killed. This opinion is not shared by most 2+2ers, but my database says otherwise. Of course my database (like poker in general) is full of morons.

spacetime 04-01-2006 07:29 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
Check turn.

You pretty much have to call the river here getting 5 to 1.

curtains 04-01-2006 07:52 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 

Once I got to that point I'd call the river for sure, but obviously wouldn't be expecting to win the pot.

cts 04-01-2006 09:14 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
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Raising that much in these small stakes will get you killed. This opinion is not shared by most 2+2ers, but my database says otherwise. Of course my database (like poker in general) is full of morons.

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Where do you think I raised to much? I thought the spots I raised (preflop, flop) were pretty standard. Sorry about the limits, I was playing some 1/2 as well and got this hand mixed up with them.

WHoSBeTTaTHaNuS 10-22-2006 01:46 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
check turn

Call river bet


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