NL 5/5 Live Turned Top Two facing a donkbet
 

Hero BTN ($1000)
MP($600)
SB ($700)
1 MP limper and Hero dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on BTN and raises to 20. SB calls, MP calls.

No major player reads except that SB isnt a habitual bluffer, may overvalue hands and bet believing he is ahead though. Cant remember now if this was before or after this hand but for this post lets assume before, he c/c a flop bet from me and then donked a PSB when the flush draw completed, I folded and he showed the flush. MP limper is super fishy call station.
Flop Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets 40, SB calls MP calls.
Turn Ac. Pot$220 SB bets 100, MP folds, Hero?

Re: NL 5/5 Live Turned Top Two facing a donkbet
 

I would call the hundo. Also, call most river.

Range would be KQ, AT, Q 10, K 10 clubs, 44, 10 10, J 9, KJ.

Re: NL 5/5 Live Turned Top Two facing a donkbet
 

Bet $70 on flop. Call the hundred. Reevaluate on river.

Re: NL 5/5 Live Turned Top Two facing a donkbet
 

what casino is this at

Re: NL 5/5 Live Turned Top Two facing a donkbet
 

Calling is the ONLY good play. All other options have serious flaws attached. Calling has none.

Re: NL 5/5 Live Turned Top Two facing a donkbet
 

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Calling is the ONLY good play. All other options have serious flaws attached. Calling has none.

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may overvalue hands and bet believing he is ahead though.

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some merit in raising perhaps.

Re: NL 5/5 Live Turned Top Two facing a donkbet
 

There is 1 hand that he may over value that we are in good shape against (AK). And most likely, he will either value bet or c/c that on almost all rivers. Since he is 'on the more passive side', no way is he checking KJ or a set on the river so we can comfortably value bet it AND probably get paid off.

No merit....

Re: NL 5/5 Live Turned Top Two facing a donkbet
 

I think that A 10 would fall in that category too, since I have seen people peel off another card with middle pair ace kicker in those games when the flop bet, 40, isn't too big compared to pot size; especially if they are playing against people who are more agro than the passive normal donks who open limp most hands. In other words, if you start raising live in lots of these games in position, they start check/calling with lots of top pair/weak kicker or middle pair/strong kicker type hands to see your turn action.

Regardless, I still do nothing but call here. I think the only hand that you may get value from raising is A 10 and maybe Q 10 from a bad player, but that is too small portion of a hand range to be profitable.

Re: NL 5/5 Live Turned Top Two facing a donkbet
 

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Bet $70 on flop. Call the hundred. Reevaluate on river.

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I dont think my bet size has any problem, its pretty standard 2/3pot, no need to overbet pot here.

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what casino is this at

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Hustler just like my name, in LA.

I went the route you guys suggested, just calling. I feared KJ since he played the flop like a draw, but was concerned I could be loosing value from smaller two pair. River was a blank he bet 1/2 pot river, I called and villain showed AJ. Thanks for the help.