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CASHius-Clay 07-28-2007 09:21 AM

NL100 shottaking on FTP, some hand questions.
 
Ok,

here some hands from my first NL100 Session (I bought in for 50$)

<font color="green">HAND 1: Question: Was my shove ok, or should I just call his raise and shove on the river??? </font>
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Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG <font color="#A500AF">(villain)</font> ($128)
UTG+1 ($78.30)
MP1 ($144.75)
MP2 ($42.60)
MP3 ($94.20)
CO ($100)
Button ($91.60)
<font color="blue">Hero ($49) </font>
BB ($102.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG <font color="#A500AF">(villain)</font> calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1</font>, villain calls $1, MP2 calls $1, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($8) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">villain raises to $11</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $47 (All-In)</font>, BB folds, villain folds.

Final Pot: $67
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<font color="green">HAND 2: I think this is pretty standard? </font>
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Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB ($125.10)
BB ($71.30)
UTG ($144.75)
UTG+1 ($39.60)
MP1 ($94.20)
MP2 <font color="#A500AF">(villain)</font> ($100)
MP3 ($90.60)
<font color="blue">Hero ($64.45)</font>
Button ($98.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 <font color="#A500AF">(villain)</font> raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($8.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">villain bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">villain raises to $96.5 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $45.95 (All-In).

Turn: ($165.95) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>
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River: ($165.95) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $165.95
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<font color="green">HAND 3: Question: Should I reraise him at the end or is the call fine? </font>
<font color="orange">___________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________</font>
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Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO ($134.60)
Button ($69.80)
SB ($143.75)
BB ($39.60)
UTG ($84.70)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($90.60)
<font color="blue">Hero ($127.40)</font>
MP3 <font color="#A500AF">(villain)</font> ($98.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $1, MP3 <font color="#A500AF">(villain)</font> calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.25</font>, villain calls $2.25, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($9.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, villain checks.

River: ($9.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">villain raises to $15</font>, Hero calls $11.

Final Pot: $39.50
<font color="orange">___________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________</font>
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Thanks for your help

Patrick

Nick Royale 07-28-2007 09:34 AM

Re: NL100 shottaking on FTP, some hand questions.
 
Fold preflop.

CASHius-Clay 07-28-2007 09:35 AM

Re: NL100 shottaking on FTP, some hand questions.
 
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Fold preflop.

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which hand? All 3??

Nick Royale 07-28-2007 09:36 AM

Re: NL100 shottaking on FTP, some hand questions.
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Fold preflop.

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which hand? All 3??

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1 and 3. I don't know enough about playing shortstacked to know whether or not 2 is good, it's probably fine.

tiger_hall 07-28-2007 10:11 AM

Re: NL100 shottaking on FTP, some hand questions.
 
seems fine to me.. although hand 3 ur bet should be 3/4 of the pot... hand 3 i wud be folding though pre flop

CASHius-Clay 07-28-2007 11:13 AM

Re: NL100 shottaking on FTP, some hand questions.
 
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seems fine to me.. although hand 3 ur bet should be 3/4 of the pot... hand 3 i wud be folding though pre flop

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Thanks,
I like hands like the one in hand3 if I can see a cheap flop. I wouldn't call a raise nor reraise but I like to limp with hands like 57s or 79s.

Oki-Oki 07-28-2007 11:18 AM

Re: NL100 shottaking on FTP, some hand questions.
 
Fold preflop in hand one,
two is ok,
either raise or fold 3, limping is lighting money on fire

CASHius-Clay 07-28-2007 11:27 AM

Re: NL100 shottaking on FTP, some hand questions.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Fold preflop in hand one,
two is ok,
either raise or fold 3, limping is lighting money on fire

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I usually would fold hand1 preflop but with 2 limpers I think I can pay the 0.50 to see a flop. I'm getting 7:1. Or am I wrong??

Oki-Oki 07-28-2007 11:31 AM

Re: NL100 shottaking on FTP, some hand questions.
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Fold preflop in hand one,
two is ok,
either raise or fold 3, limping is lighting money on fire

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I usually would fold hand1 preflop but with 2 limpers I think I can pay the 0.50 to see a flop. I'm getting 7:1. Or am I wrong??

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You may be getting 7 to 1 to see the flop but problem is its a reverse implied odds spot. The pots you win are going to be smaller than the ones you loose just cause you make alot of second best hands. Also its hard to play such a weak hand OOP, ie on a J high flop etc

Number27 07-28-2007 11:33 AM

Re: NL100 shottaking on FTP, some hand questions.
 
Alot of the value in suited connectors and one gappers comes from fold equity against tight players. It also builds the pot for when you do connect.

Edit: Sorry, wrong quote. Anyway you should be raising suited one gappers against limpers or folding- not limping behind.


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