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hellmuth88 07-14-2007 12:15 PM

2 difficult 50nl spots......
 
hand 1
I reraise this flop to protect my hand, because allot of turn/rivers i dont want to see really. Als for value because i think i have the best hand.... Is my line on the turn ok? I check call here because he could semibluff allot of the time here. Was leading better? Or checkfolding?

What should i do on the river?
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $49.50
BB: $63.40 18/15/4.6
UTG: $122.45
MP: $53.75
CO: $17.15
BTN: $73.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, CO calls $0.50, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($1.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $1.25</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.20</font>, BB calls $3.95

Turn: ($11.90) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $9.00</font>, Hero calls $9.00

River: ($29.90) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $22.00</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $22.00 returned to BB

Pot Size: $29.90 ($1.45 Rake)

hand 2

Is this an easy fold, if you look at his stats??
I honestly put him on a ak/aq type of hand, but an overpair is also possible. Is a call in this spot very bad?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $24.00
BB: $16.95
Hero (UTG): $52.75
MP: $70.65
CO: $43.15 55/6/.4
BTN: $75.15

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $6.00</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $4.25

Flop: ($12.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets all-in for $37.15</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $37.15 returned to CO

Pot Size: $12.75 ($0.60 Rake)

pixz 07-14-2007 12:43 PM

Re: 2 difficult 50nl spots......
 
Hand 1:
I would just lead out on this flop if im getting raised/called i would just give up this hand

Hand 2:
Given his stats and the preflop action im putting him on a pretty big hand (AA,KK,QQ,AKs) so a call preflop seems fine because when you hit your set you probably are stacking him.
On the flop its an easy fold

sightless 07-14-2007 12:55 PM

Re: 2 difficult 50nl spots......
 
hand 1 i fold flop
hand 2 flop fold is cool

wildzer0 07-14-2007 12:59 PM

Re: 2 difficult 50nl spots......
 
Hand 1, I lead for pot on the flop.

Hand 2 is standard

spivey 07-14-2007 12:59 PM

Re: 2 difficult 50nl spots......
 
I check/fold turn in hand 1, your hand isn't that good, and you checkraised flop and he's still firing turn. Why didn't you lead this flop BTW? I don't like C/R'ing this hand on this flop (also because it could get checked through)

Fold in hand 2.

hellmuth88 07-14-2007 01:08 PM

Re: 2 difficult 50nl spots......
 
ok leading seems to be the better play in hand 1.... but as played how should i continue?

ajmargarine 07-14-2007 01:26 PM

Re: 2 difficult 50nl spots......
 
Hand 2: fold preflop. You can't play for set value as mentioned above (given stacks). As played, call if your gut is saying AK/AQ.

pr0crast 07-14-2007 01:38 PM

Re: 2 difficult 50nl spots......
 
AJ, can you elaborate on folding hand 2 preflop? This seems very counterintuitive to me.

Regarding hand 1, I generally just fold this from the SB with one limper. Sounds nitty, but avoiding marginal OOP situations seems to reduce my variance a bit, even if I am giving up a PTBB from my winrate in doing so. I'd much rather be raising this in position than limping OOP, even though you are getting great odds to call. As played I think you have to bet/fold flop.

ajmargarine 07-14-2007 01:54 PM

Re: 2 difficult 50nl spots......
 
[ QUOTE ]
AJ, can you elaborate on folding hand 2 preflop? This seems very counterintuitive to me.



[/ QUOTE ]

Well, you have to fold some level of pp's to 3bs. There's a line where below it you are just playing for set value and above the line you feel your pair can still stand alone and take a pot by itself. TT is the cutoff for many people.


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