Bet size on flop and do you push the turn?
 

PokerStars Game #13466805710: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/11/25 - 17:45:09 (ET)

Seat 1: twosevoff ($138.90 in chips)
Seat 2: Kurtan ($193.10 in chips)
Seat 3: Rondel-Side ($18.50 in chips)
Seat 4: transact ($441.70 in chips)
Seat 5: Trolleur ($100 in chips)
Seat 6: Pesci Grandi ($66.45 in chips)
Pesci Grandi: posts small blind $0.50
twosevoff: posts big blind $1

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Trolleur [K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Kurtan: folds
Rondel-Side: calls $1
transact: calls $1
Trolleur: raises $2 to $3
Pesci Grandi has timed out
Pesci Grandi: folds
Pesci Grandi is sitting out
Pesci Grandi has returned
twosevoff: calls $2
Rondel-Side: calls $2
transact: calls $2

*** FLOP *** [Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
twosevoff: bets $10
Rondel-Side: folds
transact: calls $10
Trolleur: raises $20 to $30 (I want to raise here how much?)
twosevoff: folds
transact: calls $20

*** TURN *** 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
transact: checks
Trolleur ??????

Re: Bet size on flop and do you push the turn?
 

Why miniraise PF after limpers? I don't get it...

Flop is closer to a fold than a raise. I would probably fold.

As played, I think the best play is to push the turn. His hand looks a lot like a draw, and you have a little less than a PSB left.

Re: Bet size on flop and do you push the turn?
 

Absent a strong read that the $10 bet meant weakness and that I could get him to fold to a raise, I would fold the flop. With a strong read there, I'd pot it and try to charge the other player (who presumably has a draw) as much as possible.

As played, the turn is an obvious push.

Re: Bet size on flop and do you push the turn?
 

Getting there push, and wtf is villian lead folding there. Lol.

Re: Bet size on flop and do you push the turn?
 

yeah now you obv have to push. i don't mind raising this flop against a donk bettor sometimes, but not with a caller in between.

Re: Bet size on flop and do you push the turn?
 

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Seems like the first villain plays a decent number of hands and will bet a lot after the flop.