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http://www.point-spreads.com/poker/1...7-million.html

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Point-Spreads.com sources in Costa Rica are claiming the Absolute Poker Super-User account scam has been going on for three years and the actual amount that was skimmed from online poker players is estimated at close to $7 million, not the 700k amount that was previously reported. The actual amount is still unknown as an internal audit is underway.

A former employee of Absolute Poker confirmed to Point-Spreads.com that the security department at AP suspected something years ago and we're told it was just the owners testing out the system and to forget about it.

Our sources have confirmed that Scott Tom was using the Super-User to sit at tables as an "observer" as online poker player PotRipper would join the tournaments and Scott would tell him what cards people have so they can win the tourney and split the money. PotRipper is Alan “AJ” Green, formerly of Nine.com and the now former Operations Director for Absolute Poker. Point-Spreads.com has learned AJ’s real name but has chosen to withhold it at this time. [Super Modnote Hint: Allan Grimard] AJ is pictured with Gambling911.com's sexy reporter Jenny Woo at an expensive dinner in Amsterdam back in 2005.

Where did the $7 million go? On September 3rd, 2007 a small jet plane caught on fire before taking off on the runway at San Jose Juan Santamaria International Airport in Costa Rica. The two passengers on the private jet were Scott Tom and his pregnant wife. His wife was rushed to the hospital to make sure everything was alright with the baby. The plane's destination was Colombia and the rumored cargo on the plane was $2-3M in cash. Officials at Absolute Poker confirmed to Point-Spreads.com that Tomm was on the jet, however, deny any money was onboard.

While at Nine.com, AJ had a portrait done of himself that hung on his wall over his desk. The photo was a picture of him "American Beauty' style laying spread out on his futon covered in hundred dollar bills. Were the bills in the photo proceeds from the Absolute Poker Super-User scam? AJ joined the Absolute Poker team approximately one month before Nine.com left Costa Rica for Curacao. While living in Costa Rica, AJ bought a house in Escazu outright with cash and no one questioned how a guy making $50k a year could do that. He invested $100k into Absolute Poker and became a shareholder of the online poker giant, still no on questioned where he came up with the cash. Could it have come from the Super-User scam? We would love to ask AJ that question, but apparently he is on the lam.

At this point, AJ Green has earned the title of the most disliked person in the history of internet gambling? Apparently he was so disliked by his own employees that they blew the whistle on him and the whole scam but the real people that are pissed at him are all of the people pushing for legitimizing the internet gambling industry at its most needed hour. Not to mention, the online poker players he stole from.

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edit: to be 100% clear, this could well all be made up, but hey, AP drama's always welcome here in BBV

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first

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quite the wrinkle

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in early [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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While living in Costa Rica, AJ bought a house in Escazu outright with cash and no one questioned how a guy making $50k a year could do that. He invested $100k into Absolute Poker and became a shareholder of the online poker giant, still no on questioned where he came up with the cash.

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Seems their initial investment in AP greatly increased their networth but the superuser abuse helped to provide cashflow for a lavish lifestyle. This would explain the questions people were asking of why such rich people would take such a risk.

This sound right?

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RIGGED EDITED TO CANNONBALL DAMMIT

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Also, seems a little sensationalist imo, but who knows at this point

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So wait, the idea is that POTRIPPER and all was because they were in a hurry to get the money back? Awesome.

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I can confirm 0% of this but I would not be the least bit surprised

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Why is it that most people who write about gambling on the internet write so poorly? It would help the credibility of these articles if they were written in something that did not resemble a junior high school creative writing assignment.

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This is deep, what are the chances cheated players will recieve money from abolute if the true number is close to this new 7 million mark?

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Can anyone speak to the, uh, reliability of point-spreads.com? The content seems quite out of place on the site.

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2-3 million in cash going to colombia? I think our hopes that the law might play a role in this thing just took a turn for the better

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This is deep, what are the chances cheated players will recieve money from abolute if the true number is close to this new 7 million mark?

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100%. buuuuuuuut...how many of the cheated accounts have not logged on in years and will never see the money?

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agreed- when I posted the link I made a disclaimer, but at this point I honestly don't care much and it is "news" of sorts in the sense it's being circulated.

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agreed- when I posted the link I made a disclaimer, but at this point I honestly don't care much and it is "news" of sorts in the sense it's being circulated.

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yeah, whether it's real or not, it's a dramabomb and we all know every AP thread must have a dramabomb in it!

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The whole plane exploding with $2-3M on it sounds kinda sketchy, but who knows.

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agreed- when I posted the link I made a disclaimer, but at this point I honestly don't care much and it is "news" of sorts in the sense it's being circulated.

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yeah, whether it's real or not, it's a dramabomb and we all know every AP thread must have a dramabomb in it!

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Plus it seems to match up very well with the info we have. Which hasn't exactly been done by any of APs versions of the story.

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adanthar how confident are you that the AP people are going to look into all use of superuser accounts throughout the past few years? and report ALL findings?

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holy crap, they could make a movie out of this..

New Avatars anyone?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showth...=3#Post12608929

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[censored] WOW

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adanthar how confident are you that the AP people are going to look into all use of superuser accounts throughout the past few years? and report ALL findings?

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pulling a completely random figure out of thin air, 80%

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so it was grimstarr all along

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I'd like to see this guy handle the AP audit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG5Qk-jB0D4

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adanthar how confident are you that the AP people are going to look into all use of superuser accounts throughout the past few years? and report ALL findings?

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pulling a completely random figure out of thin air, 80%

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And if they don't, what are the odds that you and Nat find out they missed something?

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so if you lost money that paid for Jenny Woo's implants can you choose alternatives forms of reimbursment that were derived from your money?

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so it was grimstarr all along

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http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4...ntpage1oh7.jpg

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$7 mil, wow, this AP stuff never ends.

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It appears to be the most accurate reporting on Absolute Poker Scandal to date but is incomplete imo.

gg

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this sounds vv believeable

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admo?

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4637/ajdh1.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6264/santata5.jpg

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Why is it that most people who write about gambling on the internet write so poorly? It would help the credibility of these articles if they were written in something that did not resemble a junior high school creative writing assignment.

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Seriously. I mean, if you're breaking a story about a 7 million dollar theft, you think you could cut the references to gambling911's sexy Jenny Woo, at least make an attempt to come off as reputable and professional.

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New pic??

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r.../Betcom-11.jpg


"AJ Green" leaning back with arms together in middle.

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Why is it that most people who write about gambling on the internet write so poorly? It would help the credibility of these articles if they were written in something that did not resemble a junior high school creative writing assignment.

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Seriously. I mean, if you're breaking a story about a 7 million dollar theft, you think you could cut the references to gambling911's sexy Jenny Woo, at least make an attempt to come off as reputable and professional.

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I'm pretty sure they aren't competing with Time Magazine guys...

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This sounds like the most believable version to date.

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Bank run on AP starting Now!!!! TMO....

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If the superusers go back several years, it's going to take FOREVER for us to get our money back considering all of the HH and whatever else they will be looking at to reimburse us. Have any of the statements they've given us have they stated how long or an estimate it would take to get players money back?

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New pic??

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r.../Betcom-11.jpg


"AJ Green" leaning back with arms together in middle.

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Quality pieces of meat.

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Look closely, you can see the bricks of gold shimmering in the copilot side window...

http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos....gsearch=N726JR

I found only one other Sabreline tire punctue accident in the last 10 years, and all occupants were killed in that one. The main gears are very close together in a Sabreliner, so a tire failure makes the aircraft extremely difficult to control.

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if this is true, we just jumped from Freakonomics blog to 60 minutes.

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If the superusers go back several years, it's going to take FOREVER for us to get our money back considering all of the HH and whatever else they will be looking at to reimburse us. Have any of the statements they've given us have they stated how long or an estimate it would take to get players money back?

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Presuming this is even true, there is no way anyone gets their money back from 3 years ago.