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Daliman 11-14-2007 11:01 PM

So I\'m getting screwed by a bookie. Ideas?
 
Ok, as many of you know, the bookie I deal with is trying to not pay me or the other people involved in betting with me. The total sum owed is ~80k, and he has come up with numerous excuses to a pseudo-intermediary, (he will not answer the phone for any of the f'd principals). I am looking for ideas on legal things to do to either make it in his best interests to pay or to screw him over should he not. He was accepting these bets out-of-state, which would seem to be a pretty obvious RICO violation, as well as a few other federal felonies, I believe. Anyways, the things I have thought of include;

- Reporting to police/authories(what would MY liability be here?).
- Writing up a detailed summary of what happened, including his real name, phone #'s, address, and his legit(?) business he owns.
- Contacting people that book through him and telling them what he does to big winners.
- Using some bookie contacts I have to get word out to other books about him.


There's some other things I have considered of varying degrees of pressure, but any and all thoughts anyone has on anything I have commented on here or their own ideas are greatly appreciated. If it helps, the guy is based out of Syracuse, New York. Far more interested in ideas that might better facilitate us getting our $$$ though, ( for which we are a pretty serious dog at this point.)

Thanks for the help,
Daliman

internetdonk 11-14-2007 11:29 PM

Re: So I\'m getting screwed by a bookie. Ideas?
 
Have u thought about hiring OJ anf his crew?

Time to get muscle...

lowroller 11-14-2007 11:40 PM

Re: So I\'m getting screwed by a bookie. Ideas?
 
Do you know how to get ahold of him other than a phone #?

Are in/around Syracuse as well?

Without getting too specific...When he was paying you, how did you settle up?

Austiger 11-14-2007 11:41 PM

Re: So I\'m getting screwed by a bookie. Ideas?
 
How much is 80K to you?

As you know, one of the inherent risks of using a bookie is that you won't get paid. Taking steps to get paid, once he is ducking you is stepping into dangerous territory. He is obviously in a desperate state right now and who knows what kind of mindset he is in, or what he would do if you tried to send him to jail. That is something to consider when weighing your options.

cato-tonia 11-15-2007 12:09 AM

Re: So I\'m getting screwed by a bookie. Ideas?
 
something about this whole spiel stinks. i don't believe it.

-c

NajdorfDefense 11-15-2007 12:23 AM

Re: So I\'m getting screwed by a bookie. Ideas?
 
factor debt to people who will collect as I suggested before, LDO.

Daliman 11-15-2007 02:21 AM

Re: So I\'m getting screwed by a bookie. Ideas?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Do you know how to get ahold of him other than a phone #?

Are in/around Syracuse as well?

Without getting too specific...When he was paying you, how did you settle up?

[/ QUOTE ]

Just the phone #, although I know his work address, his business name, ( which he owns/runs) and his home address.I'm in IL. He sent cash FedEx or funds via Poker site.

Daliman 11-15-2007 02:23 AM

Re: So I\'m getting screwed by a bookie. Ideas?
 
[ QUOTE ]
something about this whole spiel stinks. i don't believe it.

-c

[/ QUOTE ]
Well thank you for your well-informed opinion. Your long servitude to these boards is duly noted.

Daliman 11-15-2007 02:24 AM

Re: So I\'m getting screwed by a bookie. Ideas?
 
[ QUOTE ]
How much is 80K to you?

As you know, one of the inherent risks of using a bookie is that you won't get paid. Taking steps to get paid, once he is ducking you is stepping into dangerous territory. He is obviously in a desperate state right now and who knows what kind of mindset he is in, or what he would do if you tried to send him to jail. That is something to consider when weighing your options.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's kinda alot, and definitely alot to my other investors. But I understand and appreciate your points.

iggymcfly 11-15-2007 02:24 AM

Re: So I\'m getting screwed by a bookie. Ideas?
 
It's tlt's gimmick account. He's so unoriginal that he couldn't even use capitalization or quit writing in a signature at the end of every post.


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