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brad2002tj 11-16-2007 11:41 AM

When to Stop&Go/Go&Go vs. shoving
 
I understand both concepts and use both randomly in moderately short stacked situations. Is there hand holdings/situations that should dictate which play?

For example, should you use the go&go when you have only a moderate hand (i.e. KQ) and want to prevent marginally better hands (i.e. A10) from seeing all 5 cards? Or should you use the go&go when you have a stronger hand and you want to maximize value? Or both?

brad2002tj 11-18-2007 11:38 PM

Re: When to Stop&Go/Go&Go vs. shoving
 
No one???

Bond18 11-20-2007 01:19 PM

Re: When to Stop&Go/Go&Go vs. shoving
 
Brad,

I think you didn't get answers because your question is to vague. You need to include stack sizes/metagame/positions, etc stuff like that. However, i do like go/go'ing KQ sometimes, as far as a short answer goes.

trojanrabbit 11-20-2007 02:14 PM

Re: When to Stop&Go/Go&Go vs. shoving
 
I did some analysis on this a while ago for the 2+2 Magazine. I found that the stop 'n go is probably not as effective as most people think. It's mostly only effective if your opponent is very tight post-flop (duh!). If he won't call unless he has top pair, then stop 'n go, otherwise it's probably best to push/fold pre-flop.

Tysen

Cody1982 11-20-2007 07:42 PM

Re: When to Stop&Go/Go&Go vs. shoving
 
I know this sounds like a rookie question but I am a rookie. Can anybody breakdown the Stop&go/Go&go for me. Don't get me wrong i have a general ideas but I'm sure I'm a little off

Vetgirig 11-21-2007 09:44 AM

Re: When to Stop&Go/Go&Go vs. shoving
 
One use Stop & go when a shove pre-flop is very likely to get called and one has about a a half to a full potsized-bet after calling pre-flop.

One use Go & go when one has enough chips to re-raise preflop and then do a half to a full pot-sized bet after the flop.

One shove pre-flop if one dont mind getting called.

Example - H@££INGGOL was shortstacked in a live turnament and had KQ in BB. CO raised and SB call and then BB called. Flop came J high. SB checked, H@££INGGOL went all-in and CO folded and SB called with AA(SB was trapping) turn T river 9 !!!


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