value call or value shove?
 

5 handed 5/10, main villain is unknown so her probably sucks.He starts with 67 BB.

I raise 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] OTB, SB and BB calls.

Flop comes A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. 2 checks, I make a cbet, SB min raises, BB folds, I decide to call.

Turn is Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], check check.

River 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. He bets 100 into a 405 pot, leaving around 400 behind. Call or shizove?

Re: value call or value shove?
 

lol shove

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ps flop call is not good

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Flop call seems OK given the minraise. As played, shoving probably has very little value. You get called 100x/100 when you're beat, but very rarely when you're winning outright. Unless he has a set and calls almost all of the time, I don't think shoving the river is better than calling.

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Betting 100 into a 405 is so weak, I would definately push the river here... He might not call very often, but you are definately ahead/split here, so shove:)

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If she is unknown and you say she sucks, she may think her Ace /set is good her. If she sucks, she probably isn't check-raising with a draw so u might as well shove here. who knows what may be going through her mind your shove may look like a bluff.

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I call this because I see no worse hands call.. Did anyone notice the flush out there?

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ez shove

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i like a push. A3, A5, A2, 33, 55, 53, 22 are all within the realm of possibility and i doubt a bad player (assuming that the villain is in fact a bad player) would be able to fold any of these, in particular the sets. hell, some fish will even talk themselves into calling with just a bare Ace, figuring that you are trying to steal or simply because they cannot bear to part with top pair.

also agree that the flop call is pretty poor.

Re: value call or value shove?
 

this would be close w/ AJ