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Turlock 10-03-2007 06:41 AM

$1 MTT Flopped a boat,tried to milk it and got stung.
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed)
UTG+1 (t2840)
MP1 (t2505)
Hero (t3440)
MP3 (t2185)
CO (t4450)
Button (t1250)
SB (t5620)
BB (t2705)
UTG (t2265)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t100, MP3 calls t100, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls t75, BB calls t50.

Flop: (t500) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t700</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls t500.

Turn: (t1900) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t1900) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t1450</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2640</font>, SB calls t1190.

Final Pot: t7180

How should I have played this?

runout_mick 10-03-2007 06:48 AM

Re: $1 MTT Flopped a boat,tried to milk it and got stung.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Flop: (t500) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t700</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls t500.

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I just push the flop instead of calling. With his checkraise he's basically flipped his 9 face up.

He's not folding. Get it in.

registrar 10-03-2007 06:50 AM

Re: $1 MTT Flopped a boat,tried to milk it and got stung.
 
Why did you underbet the flop. Do you think it makes any difference to the calling ranges? Do you not think that with the hands that may give up on the turn (such as other pocket pairs) betting small is more worrying than betting big.

Bet more on the flop. Shove when you get reraised. You don't want to a 9 to get scared by a flush turn.

Turlock 10-03-2007 06:59 AM

Re: $1 MTT Flopped a boat,tried to milk it and got stung.
 
What % of the pot is standard for a flop bet in this situation then? Bet sizing is something I'm trying to work on currently,as it's a weak point in my game.

runout_mick 10-03-2007 07:36 AM

Re: $1 MTT Flopped a boat,tried to milk it and got stung.
 
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What % of the pot is standard for a flop bet in this situation then? Bet sizing is something I'm trying to work on currently,as it's a weak point in my game.

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I'd recommend never betting less than 2/3 pot until you have a firm grasp of when to deviate from this.

registrar 10-03-2007 08:08 AM

Re: $1 MTT Flopped a boat,tried to milk it and got stung.
 
Yeah. I'd bet 300 here because on Stars software that is a convenient amount which is &gt; 1/2 pot.

In general, without other considerations (such as how to get a stack in over three streets, or how not to commit yourself on the next street), I like to bet 2/3 on flops and 1/2 on turns (as I say, all other things being equal).

tarheeljks 10-03-2007 08:11 AM

Re: $1 MTT Flopped a boat,tried to milk it and got stung.
 
just bet the turn, you are getting stacked every time if he's got a bigger fh.

Acein8ter 10-03-2007 09:19 AM

Re: $1 MTT Flopped a boat,tried to milk it and got stung.
 
It's hard to lay down a flopped FH, and the SB isn't going to lay down trip 9's. I'd guess that he limped in w/98s and filled up on the turn... (Or limped 96)

When 5 players see a flop, anything could happen...

JoeyJoJo Shabadu 10-03-2007 12:01 PM

Re: $1 MTT Flopped a boat,tried to milk it and got stung.
 
so you get all your money in with a boat.. get called and you feel bad? Whatever dude.

Turlock 10-03-2007 12:16 PM

Re: $1 MTT Flopped a boat,tried to milk it and got stung.
 
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so you get all your money in with a boat.. get called and you feel bad? Whatever dude.

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You've missed the point completely!


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