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Society has a big stake in reproductively viable family formation. Just investigate the social (in)security Ponzi scheme demographics if you doubt this. There's every reason to reward future baby citizens and the adults that do the breeding. Gays are free riders and deserve nothing. These are simple princilpes that are historically obvious over all of civilization.

If you're interested in liberalized gay marriage laws and falling birth rates, investigate Holland over the past 25 years.

Re: my solution to the gay marriage argument
 

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Why not get rid of marriage, unions, tax-breaks for cohabitation altogether?

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Why not just get rid of taxes all together? Solved

Re: my solution to the gay marriage argument
 

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Society has a big stake in reproductively viable family formation. Just investigate the social (in)security Ponzi scheme demographics if you doubt this. There's every reason to reward future baby citizens and the adults that do the breeding. Gays are free riders and deserve nothing. These are simple princilpes that are historically obvious over all of civilization.

If you're interested in liberalized gay marriage laws and falling birth rates, investigate Holland over the past 25 years.

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This suffers from the EXACT SAME failure of imagination and myopia as your "atheists are breeding themselves to extinction" argument. Its comical that they are both supported by the same mistaken premise, i.e. that there is only one way to get babies and only one way to make atheists.

Re: my solution to the gay marriage argument
 

Inthedark:

Are you claiming more people turn gay if we allow gays to marry? Or are you claiming that gays that aren't allowed to marry have more children than those who can?

lol

Re: my solution to the gay marriage argument
 

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Inthedark:

Are you claiming more people turn gay if we allow gays to marry? Or are you claiming that gays that aren't allowed to marry have more children than those who can?

lol

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Get back to me after you learn to read and reason.

Re: my solution to the gay marriage argument
 

Let me guess: You have expressed similar solid arguments for why certain cultures should not mix. Fear deceives.

Re: my solution to the gay marriage argument
 

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Let me guess: You have expressed similar solid arguments for why certain cultures should not mix. Fear deceives.

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Well, looks like we've got a good little democrat here. Welcome to the forum.

Re: my solution to the gay marriage argument
 

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Let me guess: You have expressed similar solid arguments for why certain cultures should not mix. Fear deceives.

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Well, looks like we've got a good little democrat here. Welcome to the forum.

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Thank you. I don't support statist politics but I can see from my comments in this thread why you would assume I am a democrat.

Re: my solution to the gay marriage argument
 

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Society has a big stake in reproductively viable family formation. Just investigate the social (in)security Ponzi scheme demographics if you doubt this. There's every reason to reward future baby citizens and the adults that do the breeding. Gays are free riders and deserve nothing. These are simple princilpes that are historically obvious over all of civilization.

If you're interested in liberalized gay marriage laws and falling birth rates, investigate Holland over the past 25 years.

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This suffers from the EXACT SAME failure of imagination and myopia as your "atheists are breeding themselves to extinction" argument. Its comical that they are both supported by the same mistaken premise, i.e. that there is only one way to get babies and only one way to make atheists.

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Sounds like you just wanted to inject your view on atheism into another thread, imo.

Because, correct me if I'm wrong, but Man + Man != Baby... same applies for women, no?

The tax breaks for marriage were implemented to promote families and give breaks for those who are raising our next generation. Are you telling me that a gay couple is just as likely to conjure up a baby as a hetero couple is to have one naturally?

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The tax breaks for marriage were implemented to promote families and give breaks for those who are raising our next generation. Are you telling me that a gay couple is just as likely to conjure up a baby as a hetero couple is to have one naturally?

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No, he's saying that the tax incentives don't convert gays to heterosexuality or vice versa. People don't pick sexual partners based on tax incentives.