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Xanta 09-11-2007 07:05 PM

I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)
 
NOTICE STACK SIZES BEFORE YOU FLAME PLZ

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $435.20
BB: $216.90
UTG: $403.10
MP: $208.85
Hero (CO): $391.00
BTN: $37.00

Reads: <font color="blue">Hero built his stack in like 8 hands by playing really aggro preflop then bet/shoving aces into jacks preflop. Villain is more or less unknown, but has the name UTG making me think he's less donkish. Don't know how he got his stack</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $7.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($17) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $12.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $50.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $140.00</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $207.00

I'm pretty awful at playing deep, but I'm sure that preflop and flop are good. How do react to his 3bet?

keikiwai 09-11-2007 07:06 PM

Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)
 
calling the flop is much better than raise folding

when you raise THAT flop, you're gonna get raised or folded on pretty often

Bramsterdam 09-11-2007 07:08 PM

Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)
 
Pre-flop is bad, as played I don't mind the fold.

loosbastard 09-11-2007 07:09 PM

Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)
 
Ughh...there are like 239056 draws out there. Raise/folding is just so terrible. And you're not even THAT deep.

KurtSF 09-11-2007 07:09 PM

Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)
 
What's his range? QQ+ and AK? Anyone got a stove versus that range?

loosbastard 09-11-2007 07:10 PM

Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)
 
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Pre-flop is bad

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PF is fine against an UTG open.

Xanta 09-11-2007 07:12 PM

Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)
 
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calling the flop is much better than raise folding

when you raise THAT flop, you're gonna get raised or folded on pretty often

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Thought about this, but aren't there a gagillion cards that suck for me on the turn? I guess being in position makes it easier to play. This might be one of those 'you can raise, but if you do you can't fold' spots.

Also, I think that any other play preflop sucks.

Fonkey123 09-11-2007 07:13 PM

Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)
 
Preflop is whatever. Raise/folding the flop is lol though.

Xanta 09-11-2007 07:15 PM

Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)
 
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Preflop is whatever. Raise/folding the flop is lol though.

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You prefer smoothcalling or raise/shoving?
Knew I butchered this one.

Fonkey123 09-11-2007 07:16 PM

Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)
 
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Preflop is whatever. Raise/folding the flop is lol though.

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You prefer smoothcalling or raise/shoving?
Knew I butchered this one.

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If I was going to fold to a shove after the raise I would flat call the flop. I would prefer to just raise/call(push) though.


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