??? River decison - 100nl
 

Villain was playing tag, like 46/38/3

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $159
Hero (SB): $188.15

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3</font>, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls $4

Turn: ($14) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $44</font>, Hero calls $33

River: ($102) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $108 and is All-In</font>, hero???

This was only the second time he made a big turn check raise in the hour session. Other time was on a J K A board, and i shoved over it with Q10 and he mucked. So lost here!

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This is an interesting spot. He could have T9, 45, a pair+flush draw, other random two pair hands, etc.

I would call, but I think it's close either way.

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I would fold here.

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I would fold here.

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what do u put villain on? 45, two pair? set?

Cuz there's alot of pair + straight draws that may turn there hand into a bluff on the river, and alot of 78, 67, hands that play this the same way...

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Sick but yeah, muck

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"Cuz there's alot of pair + straight draws that may turn there hand into a bluff on the river"

i don't think many players think/play this way at 100 nl

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I would fold here.

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what do u put villain on? 45, two pair? set?

Cuz there's alot of pair + straight draws that may turn there hand into a bluff on the river, and alot of 78, 67, hands that play this the same way...

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You've played it like you have an ace, and he really doesn't seem to care. So, I'd put him at 2 pair+, weighted towards sets and straights. I'm not sure he would play bad two pair hands this strong. If he thought about river for a long time before pushing that might bring those low two pair hands more into it.

You could stove all the two pair, sets, and straights that seem likely and look at your equity. I don't think it's enough to call.

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have you got any idea what is his caldcalling range pf?

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I think I fold here, I don't see him playing worse 2 pair here often enough to be profitable to call.
I would put his range mainly toward straight, sets and 2 pairs being a lesser part.

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I would fold here.

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you beat what?

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ya his cold calling range pf is pretty tight. But would definetly include hands like 67, 89, etc as well as pocket pairs. He wasnt three betting too much so 66/77/88 definetly isnt out of the equation.

"Cuz there's alot of pair + straight draws that may turn there hand into a bluff on the river"

i don't think many players think/play this way at 100 nl


Maybe not but he seemed a pretty competent opponent and i know im definetly capable of turning decent pairs into bluffs in good spots. Obviously its not standard for this level but it is in the realm of possibility.

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Board: 6s Ah 7d 8d 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.020% 45.10% 03.92% 23 2.00 { Ad6c }
Hand 1: 50.980% 47.06% 03.92% 24 2.00 { AA, 88-66, Ac9c, As9s, Ac8c, As8s, Ac7c, As7s, 86s+, 76s, 54s, A8o-A6o, 86o+, 76o }

ok so i suck with pokerstove but does this seem like a reasonable range???

and also does it mean i should call? (im obv a feel player, lol)

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If our plan is to fold on the river, shouldn't we just muck the turn or is villains range too large to do so?

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well ya i was thinking that, but i think he semibluffs too many pair + draws on this turn to fold it here.

edit: to fold on the turn that is (river obv still undecided)

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Board: 6s Ah 7d 8d 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.020% 45.10% 03.92% 23 2.00 { Ad6c }
Hand 1: 50.980% 47.06% 03.92% 24 2.00 { AA, 88-66, Ac9c, As9s, Ac8c, As8s, Ac7c, As7s, 86s+, 76s, 54s, A8o-A6o, 86o+, 76o }

ok so i suck with pokerstove but does this seem like a reasonable range???

and also does it mean i should call? (im obv a feel player, lol)

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Yeah, we have 3:1 and you didn't even add some missed semi-bluffs in this range. This is a call.

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results- i folded cuz im a nit, and he told me he had 78 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I keep forgetting the cardinal rule in HU is to never fold....nething