Does this play generally mean AA?
 

Let's say we're both sitting with 100BB. We're on the button with KK and raise to 4BB, villain reraises to 12BB. We 4-bet to about 30 BB and he goes all-in. Does this mean "Put it away?"

Re: Does this play generally mean AA?
 

What, put it away so we have both hands to fist pump?

At uNL this could be loads of hands. I have seen opponents do this with any pair, any ace, two picture cards. Most of the time with Aces they will try and slowplay it.

Kings are good.

Re: Does this play generally mean AA?
 

In a word:

No. Never, ever, ever.*

Todd

*If you have a 500+hand sample size, and the guy runs like 10/5 or under, this might be ok.

Re: Does this play generally mean AA?
 

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*If you have a 5000+hand sample size, and the guy runs like 10/2 or under, this might be ok.

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Re: Does this play generally mean AA?
 

Really??!!!

I have never clicked 'call' against someone w 100BB and NOT seen AA.

pf 4betting pretty much always means super premium... 5betting all-in means 'I don't care!'

Do any of you 4/5bet pf w QQ/KK against an unknown with a reasonable stack?

Re: Does this play generally mean AA?
 

yes.

Re: Does this play generally mean AA?
 

Yes, start folding to his shove.

Re: Does this play generally mean AA?
 

No never fold there.

How does this situation change if we are both 200bb?

Re: Does this play generally mean AA?
 

There are very few time you might think of folding KK in general, you don't describe very well the situation (if you got reads, if you've been stealing, etc.), but button VS blind I don't think folding is a good idea at all, at least with 100BB stacks, you will need to be SURE he will only do this with AA and AA only, if he just sometimes does this with queens or maybe AK you're good.

Re: Does this play generally mean AA?
 

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What, put it away so we have both hands to fist pump?

At uNL this could be loads of hands. I have seen opponents do this with any pair, any ace, two picture cards. Most of the time with Aces they will try and slowplay it.

Kings are good.

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This had happened to me now 20 times with KK, I got the money in good 3 times so far, pretty much means your XXXXed in my experience regardless of the opponent good bad or indifferent.

Mack