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checktheriver 11-04-2007 05:57 PM

NL100 Top 2 facing river shove
 
Villain is 50/19/0.6 (0.5/0.8/4) over ~100 hands. I don't have any specific reads, and even though he's been pretty loose preflop, I haven't seen him do crazy things postflop. He seems bad though and probably overvalues his marginal hands.

I guess my bets are too small on flop/turn, but what range do you put him on with this river bet, and do you call ? (I have 94$ behind).

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $134.05
CO: $109.50
Hero (BTN): $133.05
SB: $102.30
BB: $153.95
UTG: $217.75

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, SB folds, BB calls $4, UTG calls $4

Flop: ($15.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $11

Turn: ($37.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $23</font>, UTG calls $23

River: ($83.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $178.75 and is All-In</font>

Nick Royale 11-04-2007 06:02 PM

Re: NL100 Top 2 facing river shove
 
More on flop, more on turn. Set up for a river shove. You could easily be behind on the river, but I think I make a crying call.

orange 11-04-2007 06:04 PM

Re: NL100 Top 2 facing river shove
 
Bet more on the flop/turn. I think you're [censored] on the river but I usually pay off.

carnivalhobo 11-04-2007 06:05 PM

Re: NL100 Top 2 facing river shove
 
please dont call this

Wolverine 11-04-2007 06:07 PM

Re: NL100 Top 2 facing river shove
 
The bet isn't much more than the pot for you, so you have top two and are getting nearly 2-1. Easy call, surely? I think you're ahead here more often than you're behind. It's probably not likely he calls the flop looking for the backdoor flush.

Nick Royale 11-04-2007 06:09 PM

Re: NL100 Top 2 facing river shove
 
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The bet isn't much more than the pot for you, so you have top two and are getting nearly 2-1. Easy call, surely? I think you're ahead here more often than you're behind. It's probably not likely he calls the flop looking for the backdoor flush.

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Nah, but 86/QTss/KQss/T9ss/98ss/87ss etc should be a big concern. I actually think the crying riv call might be bad.

QuadLaser 11-04-2007 09:50 PM

Re: NL100 Top 2 facing river shove
 
I don't think I would ever call this vs a 0.6 AF player. His 4 river agg is troubling though. I think you lose this pot way way more than the 2-1 odds you are getting. He prob called w/ any piece on the flop, turned a flush draw and stuck around, or his OESD got there with 6-8. I am a nit, so I dump it.

ciro bonano 11-05-2007 05:14 AM

Re: NL100 Top 2 facing river shove
 
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please dont call this

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You don't trust the river AF 4?

Jamougha 11-05-2007 05:24 AM

Re: NL100 Top 2 facing river shove
 
You want to look at his river aggression frequency, rather than aggression factor.


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