$80 HUSNG, Does Villain ever fold a (bad) boat?
 

Villain not overly stubborn. Haven't played any big pots yet. Is this a bluffable spot? How many villains fold a 3 here? Part of why I ask is I often overshove a K or the nut 9 in this spot and feel like I run into a fold 2/3 of the time. Wonder if villain is ever folding the 3 in these spots or if I more likely had stubborn opponents w/ A or some funky "draw".

What's villains threshold for pain with the bad boat? Does he stack off here? Is this not a profitable spot to bluff?

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Seat 1: HERO ($1,735) - http://www.cardrunners.com/members/images/sb.gif - http://www.cardrunners.com/members/images/db.gif
Seat 2: VILLAIN ($1,265) - http://www.cardrunners.com/members/images/bb.gif


<font color="#000000">PRE-FLOP:</font>

HERO <font color="#272BA6">posts small blind $20</font>
VILLAIN <font color="#272BA6">posts BIG blind $40</font>
Dealt To: HERO
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<font color="#B93238">CALL HERO</font>($20)
<font color="#000000">CHECK VILLAIN</font>


<font color="#000000">FLOP:</font>

Pot: $80
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<font color="#000000">CHECK VILLAIN</font>
<font color="#272BA6">BET HERO</font>($80)
<font color="#B93238">CALL VILLAIN</font>($80)


<font color="#000000">TURN:</font>

Pot: $240
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<font color="#000000">CHECK VILLAIN</font>
<font color="#000000">CHECK HERO</font>


<font color="#000000">RIVER:</font>

Pot: $240
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<font color="#272BA6">BET VILLAIN</font>($125)
<font color="#000000">FOLD HERO</font>
<font color="#000000">UNCALLED VILLAIN</font>($125)
<font color=" #000000">MUCK VILLAIN</font>

<font color="#007F11">VILLAIN collected $240 from main pot</font>

<font color="#000000">SUMMARY:</font> Total pot: $240 Rake: $0

Final Board:
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Seat 1: HERO small blind folded on the River - Net Gain/Loss: ($-120)
Seat 2: VILLAIN big blind collected 240, mucked - Net Gain/Loss: ($120)

Re: $80 HUSNG, Does Villain ever fold a (bad) boat?
 

I think this is a good spot to bluff. If your opponent tends to show weakness with this kind of bets then go on and raise him. But if you think your villain is bad which usually means he looks at his full house and thinks it's a good hand and makes a call without giving a thought at what you would have then just fold. Also if you have bluffed a lot and don't think he would believe you again you'll have to fold.

Re: $80 HUSNG, Does Villain ever fold a (bad) boat?
 

Don't limp preflop. And don't try to push people off a full house.

Re: $80 HUSNG, Does Villain ever fold a (bad) boat?
 

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Don't limp preflop. And don't try to push people off a full house.

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simple, solid advice

Re: $80 HUSNG, Does Villain ever fold a (bad) boat?
 

What's wrong with limping 30bb deep?

Most people aren't folding a 3 here. A good reason to limp preflop, inflate the pot when YOU want to, not when your starting hands force you to.

Re: $80 HUSNG, Does Villain ever fold a (bad) boat?
 

It's ok to limp if you aren't likely to be raised. Don't try to be people off a full house though, unless you know they can make hard laydowns.