If your going to AC - trip info
 

This is what I learned during my most recent trip to AC which was Thursday and Friday (11/8-9).

I’ve read some things about staying in AC in this forum and I’ll reiterate these items now based on experience.

For good Hotel deals and extremely convenient access to the best Poker rooms stay in Absecon, pronounced Ab-see-ken, I had previously seen the name and thought it was pronounce Ab-se-con.

There are a lot of hotels on 30 East (Absecon Blvd) about 4 or 5 miles from the Borgata and Harrah’s and 5 or 6 miles from The Showboat and the Taj.
Route 30E actually ends at the Showboat so if you are driving east coming from Absecon and cross Pacific Ave you will be in the main entrance of the Showboat and the parking area is right there on the right.
The Taj Poker room is right next to the Showboat.

Getting from the Showboat to 30W towards Absecon just as effortless, just drive straight out and that’s 30W also known as Delaware Ave. You’ll see the entrance to the Borgata and Harrah’s on your right as you drive west.

If you have ever driven through traffic on Pacific or Atlantic Ave in AC you will appreciate this. Route 30 is a straight shot in and out of downtown AC.

I stayed at the HJ Express it was clean and the front desk was very courteous. There is a refrigerator in the room and a free continental breakfast. The cost was $33.00 on Thursday and $58.00 on Friday.

The Showboat Tournaments are fun and well run.
- There are no Antes at all, and they are NOT in a hurry to get the tournaments over with.
- Talking about a chop at the final table is not allowed.
brag: I played in the Thursday night 7:00 pm tournament and placed 5th for $236.00.

I was short stacked after the first 2 levels and for the remainder of the tournament I fluctuated between 3 and 8 BB so every hand I played was an all-in and I hit ‘em all – talk about luck.
The most memorable was at the final table 8 players remaining and we were all in the money.
Blinds were 1000 / 2000
I had A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] utg I go all-in for about 8000 2 folds and a decent player with a big stack whom I had already doubled up on at least once during the tourney, thinks for a while and says “I’m not worried about him” (meaning me) “but everybody else to follow” and mucks his cards. One of the cards flipped over and the dealer turned both up and he had AKo. I don’t think he appreciated his cards being shown, I know I wouldn’t have.
It gets folded to the BB and he says “Thanks, I’ll take him” and he calls and tables A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Somebody’s says to me “Your queen is live!
Flop is something like 5 8 10 rainbow and somebody yells, “He’s gonna hit his queen”
Sure enough the turn was a Q (they groaned) and river was blank so I doubled up and made it to 5th place when I went all in with 66 and everybody called. A Big stack with K 10 flopped a 10 and IGH.

I played 1-2NL most of Friday at the Showboat and the Taj. I finished up about even after 2 sessions. 1-2 at the showboat is pretty mellow, 1-2 at the Taj on Friday was nuts.

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Glad you had a good time man, thanks for the TR

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- Talking about a chop at the final table is not allowed.

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This is not true.....I'm a regular at The Showboat.

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- Talking about a chop at the final table is not allowed.

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This is not true.....I'm a regular at The Showboat.

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I read official rules after the tourney and did not find anything about 'not discussing a chop'
But as soon as I brought up the subject when we were down to 8 players at the final table the dealer said we could not discuss it.
We were also warned not to discuss in any way the 'implicit collusion' that is part of normal tournament play when a short stack is all in and eliminating him will advance everybody up in the payout.

We were reminded that violating the rules could result in a 10 minute 'time out' from the tourney.

I don't mind those rules whether they are official or not, I just haven't heard them enforced before.

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- Talking about a chop at the final table is not allowed.

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Officially it's not allowed, but the last two times I was there and finished ITM we chopped, and the deal was made at the table. The dealer said nothing, but the floor said we had to go outside the poker room to discuss a chop and to divide the money up.

The story I heard on this (from another player) was that they used to allow chopping, but on one occasion, the guy who took first place--after agreeeing to a chop-- absconded with the money, and the casino had to pony up the first place money again to satisfy the other players. Since then, no "official" chopping allowed. I have no idea whether or not it's true.

--klez

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- Talking about a chop at the final table is not allowed.

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Officially it's not allowed, but the last two times I was there and finished ITM we chopped, and the deal was made at the table. The dealer said nothing, but the floor said we had to go outside the poker room to discuss a chop and to divide the money up.

The story I heard on this (from another player) was that they used to allow chopping, but on one occasion, the guy who took first place--after agreeeing to a chop-- absconded with the money, and the casino had to pony up the first place money again to satisfy the other players. Since then, no "official" chopping allowed. I have no idea whether or not it's true.

--klez

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Wow, really? They used to let us discuss a chop at the table, then when the players chopping would finish, we'd each get our prize from the cage and bring it back to the table. They had no problem with us spreading cash around the table and making piles to split between us. I think the dealers liked it too because they would end up with whatever part of the cash made the math hard [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I haven't been in several months though, so thanks for the tip about "no chopping," at least officially.

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- Talking about a chop at the final table is not allowed.

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Officially it's not allowed, but the last two times I was there and finished ITM we chopped, and the deal was made at the table. The dealer said nothing, but the floor said we had to go outside the poker room to discuss a chop and to divide the money up.

The story I heard on this (from another player) was that they used to allow chopping, but on one occasion, the guy who took first place--after agreeeing to a chop-- absconded with the money, and the casino had to pony up the first place money again to satisfy the other players. Since then, no "official" chopping allowed. I have no idea whether or not it's true.

--klez

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I can confirm this. I chopped the Sat. tournament a week after this happened. I got word directly from the floor. If you're gonna chop, you have to do it discretely.

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Yep, I chopped one three ways about a month ago and we were scolded (in a friendly manner) that no chopping allowed at Showboat anymore. The on duty poker room supervisor communicated the exact story klezmaniac mentions above.

That said, when it got down to the three of us we just shoved all in blind every hand until there was a winner. Also, once we all got our cash we actually split it up on an empty poker table without any hassles.

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- Talking about a chop at the final table is not allowed.

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This is not true.....I'm a regular at The Showboat.

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At the FT I made at the Boat last month, dealer said "you can't talk chop at the table" and said we had to leave the table to talk about it. I busted 6th and there wasn't any chop to that point. I didn't hang around to see what went on later.

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- Talking about a chop at the final table is not allowed.

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This is not true.....I'm a regular at The Showboat.

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I read official rules after the tourney and did not find anything about 'not discussing a chop'
But as soon as I brought up the subject when we were down to 8 players at the final table the dealer said we could not discuss it.
We were also warned not to discuss in any way the 'implicit collusion' that is part of normal tournament play when a short stack is all in and eliminating him will advance everybody up in the payout.

We were reminded that violating the rules could result in a 10 minute 'time out' from the tourney.

I don't mind those rules whether they are official or not, I just haven't heard them enforced before.

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Yeah, I just got back from my 3 day trip at the boat and sure enough, it's being enforced.

The players are none too happy about this.